ENSBURY....

[twink]

 
Looking for any information on a David ENSBURY/ENDERSBY who had a son Arthur ENSBURY/ENDERSBY  (born circa 1864 in Wrestlingworth) who married a Emma/Emily HAYNES in1884 Wootton.

Many thanks

[Chris in 1066Land]

Hi again Twink

Looking for any information on a David ENSBURY/ENDERSBY who had a son Arthur ENSBURY/ENDERSBY (born circa 1864 in Wrestlingworth) who married a Emma/Emily HAYNES in1884 Wootton.

The 1891 census index did not come up with any David or Arthur Ensbury
but
There are 13 Arthur Endesbry – but none are approx 27 years of age.

But there is an Arthur Endesbury aged 19, servant, who was born in Wrestlingworth, Bedfordshire living  at Northhill, Bedfordshire where he is a ‘Footman’ to Annie F Taddy and family, Caldecote High Street, Northill.

Could someone be fibbing about their age.

Chris in 1066Land (Hastings)

[twink]

On the marriage certificate (Sept 1884) both Arthur and David Ensbury have the occupation listed as 'labourer'.  

One would believe that Arthur and Emily were illiterate as both put their mark.  

[twink]

Have found Arthur on 1891 census as ENSBIRY living in Bedford Rd, Kempston, his occupation Bricklayer Labourer
and on 1901 census as ENDBURY living in Stuart Street, Kempston, his occupation being Plasterer and two of their children as ENDERBY staying with their grandparents in Wootton.
However I've had no luck with the 1881 census as yet  

[criggy]

Hi Twink

Had a trip to Luton library yesterday & checked out the 1851 census index looking for Arthur's dad David. Guess what - he isn't there!

Ref HO/107/1753/180 includes Everton, Potton, Cockayne Hatley, Wrestlingworth, Sutton, Eyworth & Dunton (inc Millo & Newton).

Only Wrestlingworth & Potton listed Endersbys. Potton had one family, name of James Endersby, his wife Jane & 2 children and another James on the same page no.

Wrestlingworth (HO 107/1753 Biggleswade 180/1/12 folios 249-267), population 588, had 55 Endersbys listed, but no David. I did write them all down & can type them out if you think it might help!

You said about grandparents - do you know who they were? 

I was hoping they might have the parish registers on fiche 1837+ but they didn't have many for North Bedfordshire & none of the ones you would be interested in. I think Biggleswade library keeps a copy. It may be worth contacting them to see if they would check Arthur's birth for you.

David should be in Wrestlingworth in 1861 so it might be worth another post to see if anyone can look him up so you can find out where he was born.

Regards

criggy

[twink]

Hi Griggy

In 1891 and 1901 Arthur states he was born in Wrestlingworth.  His age is consistant with being born c1864. 
In 1901 two of his children were staying with his wifes parents - Joseph and Louisa Haynes in Kempston.  I found them on the 1881 census, and Emma (his wife).
Still had no luck whatsoever with Arthur on the 1881.

Their marriage certificate in 1884 states they were both in Wootton at that time.  Father of Arthur is definately David - a labourer.  I keep re-checking!

I would love a copy of the Wrestlingworth Endersby.... you never know....

Thanks for your help

[criggy]

Hi Twink

Here goes! Am grouping them together where they have the same reference/page no. (Doesn’t mean they are at the same address, but probably lived next door or in the same road. Some families may go over onto the next page of course but you can make out the family groupings in many cases).

1851 census index

POTTON (population 1,922) HO 107/1753/180/1/10 folios 184-241- ENDERSBY

Wre – Wrestlingwoth, Pot – Potton, Hac – (Hatley Cockayne)

   age   bp   ref & page no
James    65    Wre    10a 6
James    36    Pot    10a 6
Jane    30    Hac    10a 6
John    1    Pot   10a 6
Charles    2m    Pot     10a 6   

WRESTLINGWORTH (population 588) HO 107/1753 Biggleswade 180/1/12 folios 249 –267 ENDERSBY  Sorry – I forgot to check the birthplace refs on this one.

age    bp   page no
William   50   Hun      3
Matilda   32   Big      3
George    5    Big       4
Robert    3    Wre      4
Joseph   25   Wre      5
Lucy      23   Cam      5
Simeon   20?   Wre      5
Ann      2   Wre      5
Simeon   2   Wre      5
Isaac      25   Wre      7
John      24   Wre      7
Sarah      25   Wre      7
Jacob      4   Wre      7
William   2   Wre      7
Ann      27   Wre      8
Mary Ann   1   Wre      8
James   50   Wre      9
Elisabeth   33   Wre      10
William   33   Wre      10
John      29   Wre      10
Sarah      29   Cam      10
Martha   13   Wre      10
William   11   Wre      10
Sarah      9   Wre      10
Betsy      8   Wre      10
Daniel   4   Wre      10
Mary Ann   6   Wre      10
Olney   2   Wre      10
Emmanuel   1   Wre      10
William   72   Wre      11
Hannah   62   Hrt      11
William   36   Wre      11
Josiah   28   Wre      11
Timothy   26   Wre      11
Sally      9   Wre      11
Mary      7   Wre      11
William   4   Wre      11
John      2   Wre      11
George   61   Dnt      15
Ann      60   Hrt      15
George   40   Wre      16
Harriet   7   Big      16
John      60   Wre      18
Edy      58   Hun      18
Edy      13   Wre      18
Timothy   28   Wre      20
Sarah      27   Wre      20
Maria   9   Wre      20
Ann      7   Wre      20
Sarah      5   Wre      20
Timothy   3   Wre      20
Thomas    1   Wre      20
Sophia   56   Hrt      24
William   53   Wre      24
James   19   Wre      27

Hope it helps one day.

Regards

criggy

[criggy]

Hi again

Checked the baptisms for Arthur Endersby born about 1864 Wrestlingworth, father David. None I’m afraid but there is the following!

27.11.1864 Arthur William son of Sarah Endersby
Could he be yours? Was he Arthur William by any chance?

Checked the 1861 census Wrestlingworth for David – not there. Checked for Sarah, found two.

RG9 995 page 80 All born Wrestlingworth
John Endersby Head Widr? 38 Ag Lab
Sarah Dau Un 19 Straw Plaiter
John Son 11 Ag Lab
Alfred Son 9 Scholar
George Son

RG9 995 page 94 All born Wrestlingworth
Sarah Endersby Head Mar 42 Straw Plaiter
Sarah Dau Un 16 Straw Plaiter
Timothy Son 14 Ag Lab
Julia Dau 10 Straw Plaiter
Ester 8 Scholar
William Son 1

Marriages
15.9.1865 Wrestlingworth
David Giddings minor bach Lab father Samuel Giddings Lab
Sarah Ann Endersby minor spinster father Timothy Endersby, Lab
Both of Wrestlingworth, both left their marks.
Witnesses: William Hale & Matilda Dart (both x)

28.7.1866 Wrestlingworth
William Munsey full age Lab father William Morley Lab (definitely looked like Morley!)
Sarah Endersby full age spinster father John Endersby Lab
Both of Wrestlingworth, both left their marks.
Witnesses: Thomas Brockett & Mary Ann Munsey
(The two witnesses were married 15.9.1866 fathers both named John & labourers)

Think these are the two Sarahs in the 1861 census. Had a quick look at 1881 and the Giddings appear to be at Offley, Herts with Arthur Giddings aged 17! All born Sutton which is between Potton, Wrestlingworth & Biggleswade so probably them. The Munseys appear to be at Durham.

Wondered whether a mistake could have been made on the marriage certificate with Arthur just naming his father as David. In 1881 however it would appear that this Arthur took the Giddings surname. May be worth following up though just in case?

Regards

criggy

[twink]

Thanks criggy

I spoke to my mum and she said her grandad didn't speak about his family.  There is no birth for a Arthur Ensbury or Endsby in Wrestlingworth in 1864 (+/- a year)... so that leaves Endersby (which is what we thought was originally the name).  However, there is no Arthur Endersby (or any variant) on the 1881 census.

Arthur William Endersby (son of Sarah) seems to fit the bill (and subsequent information) ......  will have to look into it some more.