help please

[cazpro77]

hi there so far i have discovered how my nan died and where/when etc

i was stuck on her marraige for 18 months  until a kind soul found what i think could be it
mary allwinckle to james prosser 1929 my nans maiden name was aldwinckle so im sending for that

i also emailed tower hamlets and they were great searching electoral regs for me from 1948 onwards now i found my nan named mary prosser living at 44 davis mansions.aldgate but no james prosser

as i dont know when he was born how do i find him?

secondly the person living with my nan at the time my dad birth isnt a prosser at all his name is harry freeman

i dont know anything about harry all i do know is he was old enough to be placed on the electoral reg in 1948-1950
so i assume 18/21
any ideas suugestions please
no offence will be taken for stating the obviuos!!

any help/ideas or suggestions would be so appreated
thanks caz

[GordonD]

Won't be amazingly helpful but harry would be over 21 as that was the voting age. It was in the 60s  that the age was lowered think (poss 1969 if I can remember correctly)

Gordon

[nanny jan]

Hi cazpro,

When you get the marriage certificate for Mary and James it will show their ages.  You will then have a rough idea of when James was born and so will be able to look for his birth.  It will also show their occupations and those of their fathers.

Do you have your dad's birth certificate? That will show the names of both parents, where and when he was born, father's occupation and who registered him.

Could Harry have been related to Mary or James?  To have been on the electoral roll in 1948-1950 Harry would have to be over 21.

Hope this gives you some help,

Nanny Jan

[cazpro77]

hi there
gordon thank you for your input i appreate anything however how small


nannyjan

i have my dads birth cert and information about my aunts.
mary anne aldwinckle my nan was born 1907 died 1969
had my aunt 1940 on her cert says james prosser then my nan had my dad on his cert says arthur prosser fishmonger/fishhawker address 44 davis mansions,new goulston street,e1
after ages searching found the marrige james prosser to mary allwinckle 1929
as to whom regsitered it just says registrar


my father doesnt really know much about his family he does have living rellies which we only found out last week but they are 2 gens down and just about remeber thier nan (my nans sister annie aldwinckle)


your help is very much appreacated many many thanks caz

[nanny jan]

Hi again,

On your dad's birth certificate I meant who was the informant who had registered his birth; usually the mother or the father.   Could James and Arthur be the same man just using different names?   I've got an ancestor, christened Rachel Maria, who sometimes is Rachel and sometimes Maria.   Makes her tricky to keep track of!

Good luck,

Nanny Jan 

[cazpro77]

hi nanny jan
how do i find the inromant were about should i be looking i have the cert here and i cant seem to find it
so sorry about this

cheers again caz

[casalguidi]

Hi Caz

Is the birth certificate a full copy like this one (column 7 shows the informant)

http://www.svpal.org/~dickel/OK/OKBirthCertificate.jpg

or a short copy something more like this one

http://www.sloanindustries.com/baby/downloads/birth_certificate.jpg

Casalguidi

[cazpro77]

hi casalguidi
 I have both certs the short and the long !
my dad only had the short one for 40 odd years then i sent for the longer one stating father and mother and address details etc

the long one is a copy from gro, it has all the details i just cant see the informant
also i dunno if this matters but my father said his mother couldnt read or write very well
i dont know if that matters???

thanks for your help it is very much appreated
thank you
caz

[carol8353]

Caz

The informant is under column 7- sometimes it's the mum- or could be the dad.

So who was it in your dad's case?

The registrar would have filled it in,so it wouldn't have mattered how well either of your grandparents could read or write.

He would have just asked them their names and put down whatever he was told.

Do you have your parents marriage cert? What name and occupation does it have down for your dad's dad? Was your grandad still alive at the time?

Hope this helps.

Carol