Parish records look-up request: I'Anson (Scruton, NRY)

[sas66]

Hi,

Maybe I'm being over-bold considering I'm a newbie on here, but, nothing ventured, nothing gained, so here goes:

I'm trying to trace the parents of my gt-gt-gt-gt-g'father Robert I'Anson (1792-1851), who I believe (or rather if the 1851 Census is to be believed) was born in Scruton, NRY, although he lived in Middleton Tyas, NRY, from at least the 1820s until the time of his death.

Circumstantial evidence (I can elaborate if this would be helpful) suggests that Robert was born in either April, May or early June 1792.

I have found the Will of a Robert I'Anson, executed in 1820, who was an innkeeper in Scruton in 1817, posted on the I'Anson International website http://www.ianson-international.org.uk/wills2.htm. In the will this Robert I'Anson names a son Robert, who just may be my gggg-g'father (and, if he is, 'my' Robert had at least 2 brothers and 3 sisters).

If anyone would be kind enough to look-up the birth/christening of Robert I'Anson in Scruton in 1792 (notionally in the spring of 1792) in the parish register and identify his parents, their ages (if such is possible) and his father's occupation for me, I would be a very, very happy bunny!

Many thanks,

Simon

[Ecneps]

Hi Simon
Here he is in 1841:
HO107/7244/13 fol.10 p.13 Middleton Tyas
Robert I'Anson 45  Ag. Lab
Christopher "   13
Frances       "   13
Dorothy      "    11

and on page 14
Matthew I'Anson 40  Grocer

all born in Yorkshire
Hope this helps
Barbara

[sas66]

Hi Barbara,

Thank you for your interest in my search. Yes, that's my gggg-g'father, with three of his children. It is slightly troubling that his age is recorded as 45 in 1841, when it is given as 58 in the 1851 Census, and his tombstone in Middleton Tyas puts his age at 59 on the day he died (5th June 1851). This 1841 Census info sadly dilutes my 'certainty' about Robert having been born in 1792.

Matthew I'Anson is a completely new name to me: I wonder if he is a brother or cousin of 'my' Robert? Thank you for this new lead! It opens up a new angle on the question of how Robert came to be in Middleton Tyas by the 1820s despite having been born in Scruton.

If any kind person out there can still help with any insight into who Robert's parents may have been, I would very much like to hear from you!

Simon

[Ecneps]

Hi Simon,
Have doublechecked to see if I had made a mistake but it's clearly 45, don't be put off, in the 1841 census ages were more often than not rounded down to the nearest 5 years.  I've checked 1841 Scruton but no I'Ansons there, am now looking through the rest of Middleton Tyas to see if there are any more,
Barbara

[sas66]

Hi again Barbara,

Thank you for explaining how age is recorded in 1841 Census - a curious system, but evidently made sense to the civil service at the time!

I should advise that I'Anson is sometimes recorded as Ianson, or even Janson, so if no I'Ansons show up in Scruton in 1841 it MAY be because they have been assigned differently, although in all probability it means that there were no longer any I'Ansons there by 1841.

Thank you for your continued interest and support Barbara!

Best wishes,

Simon

[Ecneps]

Hi Simon,
I found these in 1841, more for your collection:

HO107/1244/13 fol.8 p.9 Middleton Tyas
Francis I'Anson 40 M.S. (male servant)
William     "       35 M.S.
both born in county

same ref: fol.10 p.17
Abigail I'Anson 45
John        "       25 Butcher
Miles       "        20 Ag. Lab
all born in county

and here's Abigail in 1851 with father, (which should help find her marriage)
HO107/2381 fol.249 p.3 Middleton Tyas
Abigail I'Anson  head wid 58 pauper  b.Middleton Tyas
John Benison  father widr 86 pauper tailor b. Moulton

A quick look at www.familysearch.org shows an Abigail Bennison b.15 Jul 1792, buried 9 Dec 1863 married Christopher Ianson 28 Jan 1810 all Middleton Tyas, if you haven't looked on this site there are a few Middleton Tyas baptisms & marriages.
Good hunting, Barbara

[Ecneps]

Final trawl through 1851 Middleton Tyas at least shows Matthew was born in Scruton which ties in nicely:

1851 HO107/2381 fol.249 p.3/4 Middleton Tyas
John Ianson head 39 Butcher Middleton Tyas
Jane      "     wife  39                   "         
Mary Ann "    dau   8                    "
George    "    son   7                    "
Jane        "    dau   5                    "
Elizabeth "     "      3                    "
John        "    son   1                    "

same ref. fol.249 p.4
Miles Ianson head 36 Agl. Labourer 
Hannah  "     wife  32
Christopher " son  8  Scholar
Ann          "    dau  7     "
George    "    son  4      "
Margaret  "   dau  2
Lucy         "     "   3 mo
all b Middleton Tyas

same ref. fol.251 p.6
Matthew Ianson head u. 53 Grocer  Yorks Scruton

same ref. fol.253 p.11
John Sanderson head mar 35 Ag. Lab Yorks Tunstall
Elizabeth   "       wife    "    35                "   Middleton Tyas
Mary          "       dau          8  Scholar            "
Francis Ianson brother in law unm. 51 Serv. Groom  Middleton Tyas

fol.258 p.20
Margaret Ianson 43 wid. family svt. ag. lab. Middleton Tyas

Hope this all helps, Barbara

[sas66]

Hi Barbara,

Well, all these Middleton Tyas I'Ansons/Iansons are grist for the mill, and presumably one day all the jigsaw pieces can be made to fit together to make one coherent picture! I'm of the opinion that Matthew I'Anson is either a brother or near cousin of 'my' Robert given the info you've kindly uncovered, but just how all the other I'Ansons/Iansons in M. Tyas are related remains for now an enigma.

What I think we can safely conclude is that there were I'Ansons in Scruton from at least the early 1790s ('my' Robert born there in 1792; Matthew I'Anson born there c. 1797-8) until at least 1823 (a Mary Ianson is recorded as the innkeeper there in that year, presumably in succession to her late father Robert [the 'other' Robert], whose Will I mentioned in my original post). However, these Scruton I'Ansons seem to have either died off and/or moved away from Scruton by 1841. The petering out of the I'Anson connection with Scruton remains, for now, a mystery!

Thank you so much for all your input Barbara - inch by inch more detail is emerging!

Best wishes,

Simon

[sas66]

Just to advise anyone who has taken the trouble to follow this 'thread' that I have to go away from home for a few days and am not sure when I can next log on - I wouldn't want anyone to post on here and to interpret a non-response from me as indifference - I will reply to any responses just as soon as I get back home!

Thanks, Simon