1851/1861 census pls - HAMMOND in Whepstead

[JustinL]

My gggm was Isabella HAMMOND, b. c1852 in Whepstead.

She was the daughter of John, b. c1817 in Whepstead, and had at least two younger sisters, Mary Ann (1860) and Emily (1867).

They were living at 'The Holes' in 1871.

I would appreciate look-ups in the 1851 and 1861 censuses.

Many thanks, Justin

[Tati]

Hi Justin,

1861
RG9/1137 103 14
Whepstead, Suffolk
Limberhouse? Lane
John Hammond, head, 44, Ag lab
Mary A, wife, 45, b. Drinkstone
George, son, 20
Matilda, dau, 16
Davis, son, 14
Caroline, dau, 12
Daniel, son, 10
Isabella, dau, 8
Mary A, dau, 1

All but Mary born Whepstead.

Just next door a William Hammond age 53 b. Whepstead with wife Mary and children Harriet age 13 and Ephraim age 10.
 

[Tati]

1851
HO107/1791 148 11 & 12
Whepstead, Suffolk
Limberhouse Lane
John Hammond, 34, Ag lab
Mary Ann, wife, 34
George, son, 10, scholar
Susannah, dau, 8
Matilda, dau, 6
David, son, 3
Caroline, dau, 2
Daniel, son, 8mo

Birthplaces as in 1861

[suzard]

Also on same page 1851 -2 doors away- address StoneCroft
Joseph Game Head 42 Ag lab Suffolk Rede?
Sarah Game wife 33 Whepstead
Sarah hammond Mother in law Widow 63 Pauper Whetstead

Suz

[JustinL]

Thank you both very much indeed. Looks like half of Whepstead is related to me somehow.

Interestingly, the 1841 census of Stone Cross Green has Joseph GAME (30) and wife, Sarah (also 30), living next door to a tailor named, William HAMMOND (65).

This is so addictive.

Justin

[josiemcc]

Hi,

this is a very late reply as I have only just joined so it may no longer be relevant.

However, I live up the road from Stonecross Green and have seen "The Holes" on maps.  I've tried to locate it as it no longer exists, and have concluded that it is now part of a field.  At the corner of the field just after ploughing you can see lots of china, glass dug up which would suggest that a house was there at some point (possibly?).

If you need a photo - let me know!

J.

[JustinL]

Hello Josie,

Welcome to RootsChat.

I was certainly taken aback to receive a reply to a 15-year-old post. Out of the 1000s of posts on RC, how on earth did you stumble across mine?

I appreciate your offer of taking a photo, but the old maps and current aerial views provide a good impression of the environs. For some reason I can't attach such an aerial view to this old post. I imagine that the site of Hole Cottages is now occupied by a small copse of trees. If you paste these coordinates 52.18669991395194, 0.669517000966741 into google maps and switch to aerial view, you'll see where I mean.

About 10 years ago, I took my mother on a family history drive around that part of rural Suffolk. Her mother was a Farrow, whose ancestors came from Whepstead. Isabella Hammond was my maternal grandmother's grandmother.

How about you? Do you have East Anglian ancestry or did you end up in Suffolk by chance?

Regards,

Justin

[josiemcc]

Hi Justin,

I found your post just by searching for Whepstead.  But yes, a very late reply I agree.

I shall go and have another look today for The Holes as I know exactly where it is now.  I don't know where Limberhouse Lane is though and I haven't found it on any maps - interesting. 

I am originally from Gloucestershire and ended up in Suffolk by chance so have no ancestry links here.  Although I am very interested in the Whepstead area and its history having been here for some time.  The Whepstead village website has some updated history links on there which may be interesting for you.  http://whepstead.onesuffolk.net/our-village/history/

with best wishes,

Josie.

[JustinL]

Hello Josie,

You've inspired me to take another look at my mother's ancestry. I really wasn't that thorough all those years ago.

In essence, during the 19th century at least, neither the Farrows nor the Hammonds ever actually lived in Whepstead itself. The Hammonds lived in Stonecross Green (or nearby), whereas as the Farrows were at a different location within the parish for virtually every census.

Looking carefully at the place names and occupants, I'm fairly confident that Newhouse Farm on the OS map of 1884 was known as Thurston's Farm in the 1860s, but had previously been called Limberhouse Farm. Presumably, Limberhouse Lane was adjacent to the farm; maybe it became Rede Road.

I did find the information on the Whepstead village website very interesting; my 3rd ggf James Farrow and his siblings were amongst the 81 people vaccinated (against smallpox presumably) in 1833.

I may even contact the historical society.

All the best,

Justin