Henry Charteris/Annie Moore in Kent or Armagh-1858/59

[AngelaCharteris]

Hi, I am looking for any information regarding the birth records of my great grand father "HENRY VANE CHARTERIS" or his wife Annie Moore. He was born 1858/59 New Brompton, Chatham, Kent, England. She was born 26th Feb 1862 in Armagh to Charles Moore & "Anne". They married 14th Feb 1882 at St Marks, Co Armagh, Armagh, Ireland.

I have since found out that where Henry was born, is a Naval/Marine/Army base now known as Gillingham. I have been searching for over 10 years  for any information on his birth/parents/siblings with no success. I have his complete Military history records from enlistment to when he left the military service but they don't say who his parents are. I cannot find his birth records anywhere, despite extensive seaches. Can anyone help me please???

 He married Annie Moore who was from Armagh, Ireland. I have searched the Medway records, 1837online, St Catherines house index with no success.

 I have enclosed 2 photographs of them as well as a family photo taken just befor they imigrated to Western Australia abt 1908/1909. I hope someone can help me.

Thank you so much, Angela Charteris

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[casalguidi]

Can anybody help Angela locate or guide her on how to obtain a marriage certificate for (according to the army records) Henry CHARTERIS and Annie MOORE married 14 Feb 1882 St Marks, Armagh

Casalguidi

[Anthony]

Hi Angela. don't know if this is of any help to you.

Armagh 1852

Ann Moore Groces English St.
James Moore wine & spirit dealer Market St.
A, Moore publican Barrack St.
Robert Moore hosier Scotch St.


                                                Anthony

[AngelaCharteris]

Anthony, thank you so much for taking the time to come in & help me. It is so much appreciated. Thanks Angela

[Tees]

Can anybody help Angela locate or guide her on how to obtain a marriage certificate for (according to the army records) Henry CHARTERIS and Annie MOORE married 14 Feb 1882 St Marks, Armagh

Casalguidi

Hi Angela,

I found your couple's marriage entry--indeed, they were married on 14th Feb 1882--here's information:

Henry Vane Chartris married to Annie Moore in Armargh Church of Ireland in the parish of Armagh in Armagh, Co Armagh, Ireland.

You can apply to the Irish GRO for a photocopy of their marriage entry using this information for only 6 euros. When you get their entry, it will tell you who their fathers are.

Then you can trace their birth entries.

Kind regards,

Tees

[Tees]

Hi Angela,

The birth year you have on your Annie Moore is before the Birth Registration started in Ireland. Registration was only started in 1864.

I would advise you to get this couple's marriage entry first in order to find out their fathers. From the Irish GRO.

You can look up in the England & Wales GRO indexes on your Henry Vane Chartris and any varients on the surname as you can get his birth entry.

I can only find a Annie Murray with the father of Charles but no Annie as a mother but it was in 1868. In Co Armagh.

Good luck,

Tees

[AngelaCharteris]

Hi Tees, I have about all but given up on finding any records of my great grand fathers birth records  I have tried to apply for thier marriage certificate several times but am having a hard time every time I ring Ireland to find out who I actually apply for the certificate too. Any advise on what to do next??? Thanks for the help, Angela Charteris

[Tees]

Hi Angela,

I do empathise with you and your frustration in finding your Irish ancestors in the records. You are not the only one who have this problem. 

Let's start with getting you the marriage certificate--You have two options--1) Applying to the Irish GRO by post and request a photocopy of the entry for only 6 euros (this will be about 3 to 4 weeks' wait OR 2) Applying to the Northern Irish GRO by post or online and get a certified copy for a bit over 10 pounds and you will get it in the post within 10 days from the receipt of the payment. If you want this method, I would recommend that you get a reference number then it will only cost you 5 or 6 pounds.

I would go with the option#1 as you only need a photocopy unless you need a certified one for the governmental purpose.

Here are two websites where you can get the marriage certificate from:

1) http://www.groireland.ie/ (Ireland)

2) http://www.groni.gov.uk/ (Northern Ireland)

Use the exact information I gave you on the marriage. They will have no trouble in locating it for you.

Kind regards,

Tees

[Tees]

Hi again,

I will do a bit of sleuthing on your Henry Charteris's birth record. I think the problem is with the surname's spelling which you could not find him.

Give me a bit of time in finding him.

By the way, are you very certain that he was born in England?

Kind regards,

Tees