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Strange entries in certificates
« on: Wednesday 27 September 06 00:06 BST (UK) »
I have recently received one of my gggrandparents wedding certificates. In the 'age' section it says 'Of age', something I havenever found before but the strangest thing, to me, is that the person officiating at the church is entered as 'Lecturer'. Can anyone advise ???
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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 September 06 01:50 BST (UK) »
Hi David

"Of Full Age", or sometimes just "Full" was quite common unfortunately in the early years of civil registration.  It simply meant that the person was over 21; under 21 would be entered as "Minor".

What was the church?  Was it non-conformist of some kind?  Is the officiating minister entry clearly written?

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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 September 06 14:32 BST (UK) »
Hello Bill,
I gathered the age thing. The church was St Peter's, Leeds.
The entry for the officiating minister is quite clear and legible.
I have never seen an entry like this before and was hoping someone could give me a clue!
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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 September 06 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave
Was the marriage cert before 1837? If so can I ask how you got hold of it, as I am trying to find out details of a marriage that took place at St. Peter's Leeds in 1836.

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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 September 06 19:45 BST (UK) »
No Certs as we know them prior to Sept 1837 .... you may be able to get a 'print' from Fiche or Film of a Parish Register entry prior to that ...
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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 September 06 07:46 BST (UK) »
Su,
The marriage took place in 1841.
I did go to Huddersfield Library to get a copy of a baptism that took place in 1813. That was for All Hallows, Kirkburton.
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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 September 06 10:24 BST (UK) »
A number of times I have come across items which imply that a certain C of E church had both a vicar and a lecturer and also where the vicar was a vicar & lecturer but I am not sure exactly what a "lecturer" in the church was :-\

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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 September 06 13:10 BST (UK) »
The term "lecturer" applied to someone who specifically gave the sermons in the church.  It is confusingly also combined with the pastoral jobs in some cases.  Thus you will find people who are vicar and lecturer or curate and lecturer.

You will find a number of cases where the lecturer was later appointed rector but also cases where the lecturer preached in a number of churches.

There were instances where a parson in his later years became a lecturer but left the pastoral duties to someone else.

It is interesting that the CE history sites seem to be searching for a proper definition of this post and details are pending.

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Re: Strange entries in certificates
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 September 06 19:49 BST (UK) »
Its true - you learn something new every day - especially on RootsChat!   8)
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Ey, Sawyer: London
Evans: Ystradgynlais, Wales
Snell: Snettisham, Norfolk
Knight, Burgess, Ellis: Hampshire
Purdy: Ireland/Canada/Durham/Pennsylvania
McCann: Ireland
Morrow: Pennsylvania
Sparnon: any
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