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'Cole' McGuiness- a brewer circa 1840 maybe Dublin
« on: Saturday 14 October 06 12:42 BST (UK) »
I haven't tried all Irish resources here yet but have tried for some years elsewhere & can't find anything.

On a marriage certificate I have him as the father

Cole McGuiness - occupation- brewer
Associated names - Guiness, Scanlon & Brown.
Rumoured to be from Dublin. Fathered a daughter in 1860.

Help!  :)

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Re: 'Cole' McGuiness- a brewer circa 1840 maybe Dublin
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 October 06 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,
If your ancestor happened to work for THE Guinness brewery, you might find something on here:

http://www.guinness-storehouse.com/some_history.htm

It says near the bottom that you can contact the archivist if you are looking for ancestors who worked at the brewery.
Might yield some clues?!

Do you have Cole's  daughter's name, by the way?

Is Cole another name for Nicholas?/

Good luck!
Mags
Bailey - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny;co. Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
King - co.Limerick, Kilbeheny parish
Moher - co.Tipperary, Ballyporeen parish
Farrell - co.Tipperary, Coolagarranroe, Skeheenaranky
Fitzgerald - ditto

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Re: 'Cole' McGuiness- a brewer circa 1840 maybe Dublin
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 October 06 18:34 BST (UK) »
Ooh thanks very much for this!!!
My father also wondered if it was short for Nicholas but we don't really know.
His daughter went by various combinations of Marguerite
Scanlon Guiness McGuiness & Brown. Make of that what you will!
We heard a few family stories but nothing concrete to work on & no mother name etc.


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Re: 'Cole' McGuiness- a brewer circa 1840 maybe Dublin
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 08 13:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello relliehunter,

Cole may be a surname being used as a Christian name. That will possibly assist you in establishing your ancestors in a specific county and townland. 

Some of the sources below should assist you in tracing nineteenth century Irish ancestors.
Many of them are on John Hayes failterromhat.com website.

Census Records.
First Valuation
Griffith's Valuation 1848-64
Householders Index
Land Owners in Ireland 1876
Pigot & Co's Provincial Directory of Ireland 1824
Selected Irish Marriages 1600 - 1900
Slater's Commercial Directory of Ireland 1846
Street Directories
Surnames from 1841-1851 census
Tithe Applotment Books

What denomination was Cole McGuiness?

You'll have to rely on Church records as civil registration in Ireland was not introduced until 1864. Non Catholic marriages were registered from 1845 onwards. When registration for BDMS started in 1864 some people didn't bother with the registration for a few years after that date. Keep your fingers crossed that church records still exist. 

Christopher