Marriage 1824 and 1841, 1851 census-Jenkins-Completed

[Cas (stallc)]

Do you have a reference for that, I am quite willing to help, if I can give you the info I will.

There are many with the names you mention, within the Neath area, but I have found none of them together as a family, with names, ages matching in 1841.

I also have been doing this many years.

Cas

[Jamjar]

Hi,
No I don't have a reference. I just put 1841 census into search and it came up with a gov. website which then led me to Ancestry.com. I put in names and Neath. The reason I think it may be Neath is because Jenkin was married there. However, I realise this may not be the case, as he could have been off working there.

I wasn't implying you couldn't do it. I meant that when I am in Wales I could physically go to the area and search the records.

I did my English side, and a friends, researching at St Catherine's House and I loved it. There is something magical about those large volumes of hand written information. We don't have anything like it here in Australia.

I also spent many hours at a local LDS centre over here. Lovely people in those centre.

I was serious when I said I appreciate your help.

Regards,

Jamjar

P.S. I just had an idea. The farm that all the Jenkins lived on, here in Australia, was called Vrowen Farm. Would there be one of the same name on the census?

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi Janice,

There is no way of doing a search for a farm name in 1841.  the only census that has an address search is 1881.

Good luck in your quest.

Cas

[Jamjar]

Greetings from Australia,

Have just received marriage cert for Jenkin Jenkins and Mary Morgan. Jenkin was a collier living at Tynywain at time of marriage. His father William's occupation is also listed as collier. I thought they were farmers, as they were here in Australia. Jenkin was married in 1849 age 23. William was 45 at the time.

Mary Morgan's father was Roger Morgan, also a collier.

There is a Joseph Morgan as a witness at the marriage.

Could this help with the 41 census?


Janice

[Cas (stallc)]

Hi Jamar,

I have found them, I think! all details match and it is the same area as future wife, but they are transcribed as Williams. Address  Tynywain

Do you want details?  I think this must be them!

Cas

[Jamjar]

Hi Cas,

Yes, please, that would be great.

The Williams is going to throw a spoke in the proverbial wheel.

Janice

[Cas (stallc)]

1841 - HO107/1419/9 Folio 3  Page  1
Reg district Neath  
Sub-reg  Ystradgunlais
Civil Parish - Llanguich  Hundred - Llangafelach  
 
All born in County, ages rounded down to nearest 5 after 15

Address on census Ty-yn-y-wain

All down as Williams, but this could be an enumerator error

William 35 collier
Hannah 40
Jenkin 15 collier
Rees 13
Mary 11
Catherine 7
David 4

Do you want me to check for the brides family?

Cas

[Jamjar]

How exciting, thank you very much. I agree that it is them.

Yes, I would appreciate knowing about Mary's family.

I can't quite understand the residence for Mary. It is something like Caedee Definately begins with a C.

If they were there in 41, I bet Hannah died there. William re-married in 1952. I think he married here.

Are you able to see if they were in the same place in '51?

Thanks, yet again.

Janice

[Cas (stallc)]

Cannot easily locate in 1851, William or Jenkin.  Did you not say that William was in Australia before the 1851?

Will check for Roger Morgan...

Cas