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Boatman but can't read the following word????
« on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:26 BST (UK) »
I found my Great Grandmother in 1881 living with her uncle and aunt in the parish of St Georges, Hanover Square (Alyesford Street), Westminster Borough.

His occupation looks to be Boatman but I can't make out the other word, maybe it's the boat he belonged to /worked on.

Is there anyone out there, who has better eyes than me and could tell me what it might say?

I would like to try and find out why she lived with them or what life was like for her at this point in time.

Many thanks  :)




Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:30 BST (UK) »
It might be 'Lighterman' ?

Worker on a flat-bottomed boat
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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:32 BST (UK) »
I'll go with Lighterman.

There may be apprenticeship records for that. Try googling.

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the fresh pairs of eyes ScRoppers and Pauline, I'll look into that, it looks quite likely.

The more I looked, the more it looked like Ly????? must be going blind.

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Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:41 BST (UK) »
The 1881 transcript has
George HOOKER   M   35    M   Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Boatman (Lynterman)

Which is obviously Lighterman.

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:43 BST (UK) »
I think I would go with lighterman too - they worked on barges and the like so it's a possible, it does look like Lyterman so maybe it was just mis spelt!?

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 14:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Stan, George Hooker it is, have I left a trail or is he the only one in that area?

I've just goggled Lighterman and found this if anyone has boatmen or anything to do with boats and I guess ports, in their family:

www.portcities.org.uk

Hope that works.

Many thanks Pipkim  :)
Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 15:01 BST (UK) »
It looks to me that 'Lighterman' is in a different handwriting and was probably made by made by one of the census clerks at the census office.
Occupations were abstracted under certain standard headings using occupational dictionaries specifically designed for the purpose. In this process the books were altered and annotated, on the original books these are in coloured inks, crayon, or pencil, and can easily be differentiated from the enumerators' returns. On monochrome microfilm these additions are difficult to differentiate.
A boatman was a different catagory to a lighterman, and there were about ten different types of boatman.

As for finding George Hooker, you gave his address as Aylesford Street.

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Re: Boatman but can't read the following word????
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 24 October 06 15:16 BST (UK) »
I think I'll investigate him further and see what other occupations he had, if any, and when he died.

I know his father and older brother were coachbuilders who moved to St Georges Hanover Square by 1861. (I can't find much trace of them as yet, other than the census info)

It certainly adds more detail to the life of the Hooker family in London.

Pipkim  ;)

Cheshire - Shustoke, Atherstone, Nuneaton, Birmingham
Morgan - Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester, Birmingham (Morjeanstern - France, Liverpool, Burnley, Leicester)
Quinn/Quin - Ireland, Liverpool, Leicester, Birmingham
Bailey/Health/Andrews - Birmingham, (Stepney briefly), Smethwick, Bristol
Thomas/Keen - Oxfordshire, Westminster
Hooker - Odiham, Romsey, IofW, Basingstoke, London St Geo Sq

Census information is Crown Copyright, from National Archives