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Louisa WAY
« on: Friday 03 November 06 01:40 GMT (UK) »
Looking for parents of Louisa Way born arround 1850. Middlesex Notting Hill  al b
Blenman Gollop Doran Taylor Gordge Way

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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 November 06 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi al b,

The nearest match I could find was:

1861

355 Wapping St, Wapping

Job Way, Head, 65, Licensed Vituler, Devonshire Sidmouth
Harriet Way, Wife, 46, Hampshire Alton
Frederick A Way, Son, 14, Merchant Sailor Boy, Notting Hill
Arthur G A Way, Son, 10, Scholar, Notting Hill
Louisa S Way, Daughter, 6, Scholar, Notting Hill
Robert C Way, Son, 4, Scholar, Essex Plaistow
Eliza Keely, Servant, 21, General Servant, St Georges

RG09/283 F 111 P 7

Regards, Emma ;)
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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 November 06 03:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi al b

How sure are you of her age?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,191800.msg944662.html#msg944662

Looking at your other post it appears (when she is married to Charles BLENMAN) her census details were:
1881 - age 30 - b Notting Hill (1850/51) (a parish in Kensington)
1891 - age 40 - b Middlesex Ealing (1850/51)
1901 - age 53 - b N. Kensington (1847/48)

(*In 1891  they all have Ealing  as POB  - even Charles who was from Somerset in the other 2, so I only show that one for her age)

She married Charles in 1873.

Consider too, how with the old style writing, WAY could easily be mistaken for MAY - or a Census enumerator may also think he heard MAY instead of WAY.
I think you will need the marriage record to be able to progress with any certainty - for all you know she could have been a young widow when she married Charles,  and WAY then may not even be her birth name.

Cheers
AMBLY  ;D


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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 November 06 13:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi  All  Have my grandfathers old birth cert. says Way on it and figuring how old she was when she married Charles I came up with that aprox. year. Charles and Louisa were my great grandparents. Thank you for the responce al b
Blenman Gollop Doran Taylor Gordge Way


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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #4 on: Friday 03 November 06 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi al b

Regardless of what it may say on a  Birth Cert for a mother's surname and regardless of whether that  is correct or not,  in the sources one might use to find her on a Census it is possible that:
1) The source has made a transcription of MAY instead of correct WAY, therefore we need to check both spellings -
2) The Census enumerator of the day, thought he heard MAY and wrote that down instead of WAY.

Considering these 2 possibilities alone against the  3 to 4 year age range in Census 1881-1891 where you know she's the right woman, there are actually  a few possibles for her in the pre-marriage census. Not forgetting how a Woman's Perogative in the age department may also skew things!  And, I know of more than one instance where the birth cert of one child to a set of parents gave  mother's true maiden name whereas others born to the same couple  gave the mother's former married name only.

Though in this case you do have the later Census to go on, in general forget estimating a YOB of a mother based on the birth year of a child where you have no other evidence to support the mother's YOB you arrive at - women gave birth on avg from  age 16 to 46. The IGI do these sorts of estimations on their LDS submitted records , and I found one instance where the IGI YOBs were based on "average age at marriage in the age 20's" when in fact the couple were marrying in their very late middle age.

For example a 20 yr old Louisa WAY b Hammersmith (which falls under Kensington) is living/working there in 1871.  Yet in 1861 - the only apparent match for her in 1861 with parents is a  MAY.  Is she yours?

Without that marriage record or any other information,  family anecdotal or otherwise  to go on - there is no way any  Louise in Census 1851 to 1871 can confidently be said to be yours.

The marriage for example, may reveal her father's name and could hypothetically lead to> he died> her mother remarried> Louisa is using stepfather's name on Census. This scenario and a host of others, can and did occur and can and do lead us vastly astray!

Good hunting  ;D
Cheers
AMBLY
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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 November 06 18:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi  Thanks to all   Emsworthy has the right ones as my grandfather was named after on of her brothers  Arthur. Starting to put things together . Thanks to all  al b
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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 November 06 20:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi al b,

If you're sure that this is the right family, here they are in 1851...giving you more siblings...let me know if you want any of them looking up in later census records...

42 William Street, Kensington

Job Way, Head, 53, Builder Master, Devonshire Sidmouth
Harriott Way, Wife, 36, Hants Alton
Charlotte Way, Daughter, 15, Servant, Kensington
William Way, Son, 13, Kensington
Lewis Way, Son, 10, Scholar, Kensington
Frederick A Way, 4, Scholar, Kensington
Arthur G A Way, 4mths, Kensington

HO107/1468 F 555 P 33

Regards, Emma ;)
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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 November 06 20:48 GMT (UK) »
1841

Hammersmith St Paul

Job Way, 43, Carman, N
Harriet Way, 25, N
Philip Way, 12, Y
Joseph Way, 9, Y
Harriet Way, 7, Y
Charlotte Way, 5, Y
William Way, 4, Y
Lewis Way, 1, Y
Sarah Walker, 19, N

HO107/690/3 P1 Line 19

Regards, Emma ;)
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Re: Louisa Way
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 November 06 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Thanks emma  there house must have busting at the seams.   al b
Blenman Gollop Doran Taylor Gordge Way