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Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« on: Tuesday 14 November 06 21:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I have two IGI batch numbers, but I cannot work out what the sources of the data are - the numbers are:

I033433
I033438

does anyone know what the I prefix indicates?
are these user-submitted??
Can anyone point me to the webpage on familysearch.org that explains this???

thanks
Rosemary  :D
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Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 06:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Rosemary

I have no proof from the LDS but I believe these are more recent IGI extracted batches that have not yet been fully checked. In most cases where I have found them there is no film number given (although you can usually find the film via a library search on the LDS site). I have found some of my folks in these batches & also have them confirmed by other means, which makes me fairly confident they are extracted records.

Another rootschatter has said the LDS do not intend to further update the IGI - I have found this comment confusing because over the past few months I have found extra information in the IGI - mainly by way of these I batches.

Trish
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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 06:55 GMT (UK) »
Looking at the first batch you mentioned - the records are all marriages - mainly 1839/40 in Lambeth Surrey. Unfortunately the parish is not given, as there are a couple of churches from where these records may have come. They can, however, be double checked against the civil registration records.  What is really nice about this batch is that the fathers of the bride and groom have been transcribed! Wish I had someone it it.

An example
Mary Ann Canning father Conrelius Canning m Andrew Burrows father William Burrows 3 Jun 1839

Civil reg - FreeBDM  Mary Ann Canning Jun Qtr 1839 Lambeth 4 290 - on the same page Andrew Burrows.

Trish
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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 16:08 GMT (UK) »
thanks for your advice trish! I have confirmed my dates from other sources too.

can I just confirm that there isn't any page on familysearch.org  that explains the batch numbering? I certainly haven't found one

thanks again for your time
Rosemary
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard


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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 November 06 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Hugh Wallis says on his excellent site [ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/]

Please note that I have deliberately excluded batch numbers that may be less reliable (such as all numeric numbers), being LDS member submitted entries and the like.

There's an interesting article referenced by Hugh Wallis here:

http://globalgenealogy.com/globalgazette/gazfd/gazfd36.htm

and there's an interesting commentary about IGI on GenUKI here

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/igi.html

JULIAN
ESSEX  Carter, Enever, Jeffrey, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrell, Staines, Stephens, Surry, Theobald HUNTS  Danns KENT  Luetchford, Wood NOTTINGHAMSHIRE  Baker, Dunks, Kemp, Price, Priestley, Swain, Woodward SUFFOLK  Rose SURREY  Bedel, Bransden, Bysh, Coleman, Gibbs, Quinton SUSSEX Gibbs, Langridge, Pilbeam, Spencer WILTSHIRE  Brice, Rumble
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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 November 06 01:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Julian

The batch numbers mentioned by Rosemary are not all numeric - they start with the letter I.  The fact that all the entries in the batch come from the same place are very indicative that they are extracted records - from a church register or from a third party's transcription of same.

I think most of what is written by Hugh Wallis was written well before an I batch existed.  His website states Sept 2002 as the last update which confirms this view.

The genuki reference does indicate that "I" may be used as a prefix for extracted records. I hadn't read all that before & it's very interesting - especially in relation to removing records from the IGI! It explains some of the reasons for the difference between the IGI and the BVRI.

Rosemary - I have never found an explanation of batch numbers on the LDS site. Hugh's website was where I always looked until I started finding the odd batch not on his site. Julian's genuki link I found a very good read/explanation.

Trish

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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 November 06 19:23 GMT (UK) »
Julian

thanks for those great links - like trish I read them with interest - & I have bookmarked them.

Trish - thanks again & for clarifying the point about batch numbers on familysearch.org... very strange that they don't explain them in much detail. I guess it reflects  the purpose of collecting the data for the LDS!

cheers
Rosemary ;D
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Essex: Allison/Alliston, Claydon, Lambert, Pettican, Willsher, Mead, Butcher
Hampshire: Boddy, Webb, Yatman
London & adjacent: Boddy, Cormack, Nevill, Shephard, Westerman, Palmer
Norfolk: Surflen
Suffolk: Adams, Birt, Pooley, Smythe (Stanton & Badingham), Ward, Wham
Sussex: Grinsted, Pooley, Tillstone, Batcock, Bartlett, Peters
Warwickshire: Shephard

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Re: Help! What does this IGI batch number mean?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 November 06 19:26 GMT (UK) »
The batch numbers mentioned by Rosemary are not all numeric - they start with the letter I.

Trish - thanks for that.  Think I'll ask my opticians for a refund.

JULIAN
ESSEX  Carter, Enever, Jeffrey, Mason, Middleditch, Pond, Poole, Rose, Sorrell, Staines, Stephens, Surry, Theobald HUNTS  Danns KENT  Luetchford, Wood NOTTINGHAMSHIRE  Baker, Dunks, Kemp, Price, Priestley, Swain, Woodward SUFFOLK  Rose SURREY  Bedel, Bransden, Bysh, Coleman, Gibbs, Quinton SUSSEX Gibbs, Langridge, Pilbeam, Spencer WILTSHIRE  Brice, Rumble
Baker-Carter Family History