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Marriage Proof
« on: Tuesday 19 December 06 20:36 GMT (UK) »
On my fathers marriage certificate to my mother it states him as a widow. I can find no record of him marrying someone before my mum in the marriage indexes. Is there somewhere else I should be looking?

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 19 December 06 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Now can we have a little more to work with please?
What year was the marriage to your mother - place? What year was your father born/place and his name? We are sooo nosey ::) and have you been looking on Ancestry.co.uk?
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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 19 December 06 22:07 GMT (UK) »
He may have married outside of England or Wales, hence the interest in where he was born.  His name may be misspelled on the indexes, or first and last names inverted,  very common occurrences.  You may be able to find a death for the first wife in the same registration district as the second marriage.  If there were children from the first marriage, they may show in his will.  Can you identify the witnesses at the marriage? - always a possibility one may have been related to the first wife.
ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot; NB; Westminstr Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN, Peter/Adam - Germany
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER, MAXWELL - Ldn lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol tobacconist, London
WW1 internees

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Sorry I am very new to roots chat but have been successfully(apart from this stumbling block) researching my tree for a year now. My father was born in Poplar East London 1913. I have recently got his WW2 service record which states he was single when he left the army in 1947. He married my mum in 1961 so I have searched between these dates for a marriage record. It did cross my mind he may have met someone during the war and married her after. I have a half brother who has a different father to mine (Stan). Stan's sister could be my fathers first wife. I do not know her Christian name but I do know my brothers fathers surname so I have tried cross matching also with no luck. My father's surname has always been mis spelt - Isaac - so I have tried every variation. If he did marry outside the UK where does one start. He served in Africa & Italy during the war and  Vienna afterwards. I'd be grateful for any help as it is so frustrating.


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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 18:13 GMT (UK) »
There's always one of these puzzles in every family, I think!
Perhaps you could look in Scotland, Ireland, Channel Islands, before looking further abroad.  I have one who married in Jersey;  have not found the record, as I don't have access to records there, but I now know he married in Jersey - apparently jobs were relatively plentiful in Jersey after the war for some reason I know not.
ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot; NB; Westminstr Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN, Peter/Adam - Germany
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER, MAXWELL - Ldn lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol tobacconist, London
WW1 internees

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 December 06 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Also - and this is a real longshot -  I have some ISAACs who appear as BURIAT(T)E, de BURIATTE and variations.  It seems the whole family changed their names at various points from one to tuther in time, starting in the 1870s and going through at least 1910s.  Maybe yours caught up late in the game!
ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot; NB; Westminstr Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN, Peter/Adam - Germany
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER, MAXWELL - Ldn lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol tobacconist, London
WW1 internees

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 December 06 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the info, I guess I was hoping I'd missed something obvious. I will have to try branching out from the UK. It is so annoying you can find something out about a long dead relative and nothing so recent. Do you know whether I can get info from the electoral register back in 1947 -1961? I may find a familiar name there.

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 December 06 09:45 GMT (UK) »
I would guess that county records offices would have that sort of thing;  if not them, then perhaps the National Archives?
ARMSTRONG - Castleton Scot; NB; Westminstr Twp
BARFIELD - Nailsea
BRAKE - Nailsea
BURIATTE
CANDY - M'sex, Deptford
CLIFFORD - Maidstone
DURE(E) - France, Devon, Canada
HALLS - Chigwell
KREIN, Peter/Adam - Germany
LEOPOLD - Hanover, London
LATTIMER, MAXWELL - Ldn lightermen
MEYER - Lauenstein
MURRAY - Scot borders
STEWART - Chelsea; Reach
SWANICK - Mayo & Roscommon; Ontario
WEST - Rochester & Maidstone
WILLIS - Wilts, Berks, Hants, London
WOODHOUSE - Bristol tobacconist, London
WW1 internees

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Re: Marriage Proof
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 December 06 09:49 GMT (UK) »
I've just done a search and answered my own question. The British libruary holds all electoral records. I have to find which parlimentory ward etc then go from there. A little project for me over Christmas!!!