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First Fleeters
« on: Wednesday 27 December 06 08:43 GMT (UK) »
I currently have a copy of Molly Gillen's book containing a short bibliography of every person on the first fleet. If you would like the details of any - convict, crew, free settler - let me know

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish,
What dose it say about a Henry Kable there Please.

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bob

For Henry KABLE c1766-1846 it firstly says see CABELL - so there must be a little confusion re the spelling.  So then we have

CABELL/KABLE Henry c.1766 - 1846

Sentenced to death at Thetford Norfolk 14 Mar 1783 with his father Henry, both of Mendham Suffolk  and Abraham Carman of Laxfield Suffolk, for breaking into a house and "stripping" it of everything moveable.

The younger Henry escaped and was captured 27th February at Yoxford. Both the older men were hanged on 5 April. Henry Kable the younger was reprieved to transportation for 7 years. He went to the hulk Dunkirk on 7 Oct 1786 - age given as 20

While in Gaol he met Susannah Holmes and they had a son Henry Holmes/Henry Kable Jnr.

Eventually all three ended up on the hulk Dunkirk and embarked together on Friendship on 11 Mar 1787. At the Cape of Good Hope the women & babe were removed to the Charlotte for the rest of the voyage to Australia.

He married Susannah at Sydney Cove 10 Feb 1788. In July he sued Duncan Sinclair, the master of the Alexander who lost some of the contents of a parcel given to Henry and Susannah by well wishers before the fleet sailed. He was awarded damages of 15 pounds.

He kept out of trouble and was a watchman by 1791. In Jan 1794 he was granted 30 acres at Petersham. He began a career of business and investments and dealings operating the Ramping Horn at Sydney in 1798 and appointed Chief Constable in 1799 (demoted in 1802 for misbehaviour).

By Mid 1800 he was ON stores at Petersham as was his wife 6 children and 3 men. He had 55 acres sown in wheat, 40 ready for maize and 100 pigs 7 goats 3 mares and a foal (Wow - he did well  :D   :D )

By 1806 he had 215 acres - 30 acres in orchard and garden the rest pasture for 10 horses, 17 cattle 4 oxen, 260 sheep and 20 hogs. He employed 5 convicts & with himself wife and 9 children all were OFF stores.

In 1812 John Hunter had harsh words to say about him - related to his business interests.

He supported the group opposed to Gov Bligh. He  became a ship owner with James Underwood & entered the sealing industry and the import and sale of retail goods. His land holdings increased but he did not continue to take a leading part in the commercial life of the Colony, handing most of his concerns to his son Henry. Kable died 16 Mar 1846 at Windsor, age given as 84. Susannah had died in 1825.

Hope some of that is useful. There is information on son Henry and wife Susannah as well (being also 1st fleeters). I will pm this information a little later - let me know if you would like it as well.  Just to mention

They had in total 11 children - 4 died in infancy
Henry 1786 Diana 1788 Enoch 1791 James 1793 Susannah 1796 George Esto 1797 Eunice 1799 William Nathaniel 1801 John 1802 Charles Dickenson 1804 Edgar James 1808.

Trish

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish,
Thank you for that it is one off my descendant that is in my Family Tree there, A Lawton Kable married in to it in 1937.

I have been looking for that a history for Henry.

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Lawton must come from one of the children. It seems they did very well in Australia - it must have been so hard for them - tis a miracle we are here at all  :D   :D

Your Henry is also listed in the Australian Dictionary of Biography
http://www.adb.online.anu.edu.au/biogs/A020028b.htm

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish   ;D

Would be grateful for a lookup for Joseph Tuso - ship Scarborough

Thanks
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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 December 06 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi Cazay

Seems to be another well documented man. I'll write the details and send you a pm. It seems all the "early" convicted men were loaded onto the Scarborough.

Seasons Greetings   :)   :)

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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 December 06 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish

Could you please do a look up on Thomas Headington/Eddington/Heddington  per Alexander.

Thanks very much for the offer.

Cheers

Bob
Pearson - Yorkshire
Flinders - Notts/Lincs/Lyon
Dearden - Rochdale
Grindrod - Rochdale
Reynolds - Staffs/Cornwall
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Maslen - Wiltshire/Victoria, Australia
Kenny - Germany
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Re: First Fleeters
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 December 06 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello Bob

There is also a reasonable amount on your man so I will send a pm. I also have a couple of other references I'll note, as your man went to NI (where he died) and family members went on to Tasmania. There is mention of the fact that one of his daughters may have been the mistress of David Collins - I think I have information on this in another book - Do you have all the details of same?

New Year Greetings  :)   :)

Trish
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