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Offline Glen in Tinsel Kni

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Is this photograph "faked" Grandma Palmer
« on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone.

Could someone have a look at the following picture please. The query i have is as follows

The sitter was born in 1855, her first marriage in 1885 lasted till 1901 and the lady eventually lived till 1956.
 Based on her appearance i would estimate her being about 30 years old or possibly a little older but the picture looks "wrong".
 The pose and the lighting seem odd for a picture which should apparently date to the mid/late 1880's or possibly 1890's. The picture also looks too "fresh" and i wonder if it has been restored or possibly faked in some way.

I will try to add the later (1955) photograph in the next post for comparison but would appreciate your thoughts. I do not have access to the originals i'm afraid and they have been sent to me via e-mail from a third party.

Thanks

Glen

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Just for comparison the later picture of the same subject, this time from 1955 (and aged 100).
 Her hands appear the same but are the two photographs separated by around 70 years?

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:40 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D a bit obvious I think !! ::) ::) ::)
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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:48 GMT (UK) »
Looks a sthough the face has been cut and pasted from somewhere else!

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:52 GMT (UK) »
smaller pic ON THE WALL is the same ...

wallpaper ?

table ?
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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 31 December 06 10:53 GMT (UK) »
Another thing that seems slightly out is the proprtion of the head in relation to the body.
 I would have expected some sepia tone in a photograph from the 1880's, perhaps someone may put me right there.

Glen

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 31 December 06 11:26 GMT (UK) »
It 's not April 1st is it? :D ;)
The Photo you first posted has been
manipulated Glen !
Who sent it to you?
A relative?? ??? ::) :-\
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Reynolds Johnson Chapman Goodyear Wright   Demmon Maddison Jackson Bush Lingard<br />Lincolnshire Northants,Essex.   Soutar  McKenzie Stuart Watt Banff, Coupar Angus, Glen Livet, Broughty Ferry, Coatbridge, Airdrie Lanarkshire and Saskatchewan, Hamilton Wentworth, Canada. Phillips. Coyne- March Cambs, Islington,Hackney 1st Lincolnshire Regt 1914

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 31 December 06 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I agree with Polldoll.  The head has been added to the image.  It is also slightly too large for the body!
I tried to copy it, in order to enlarge and look for the joins (not an Eric Morcambe joke!), and had difficulty doing so. The format was not the same as I have encountered before and I ended up with a dark red coloured image.  I left it there and concluded that the image had been interferred with, and not particularly well
Mudge!

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Re: Is this photograph "faked"
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 31 December 06 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Polldoll

I started researching my birth family about a year ago, recently i found a cousin and she discovered our last living aunt in Australia. The son of the aunt sent the pic to my new found cousin and they forwarded the picture to me.

The photograph is supposed to be my great grandmother, her father had a business selling furniture and clothing in Lincoln, the business ran from the late 1860's until around 1930.

Other pictures i have got i have scanned from what are either originals or old reprints in poor condition and have notes/dates scribbled on the back but these two are the first scanned/e-mailed pictures i have had.

I know something isn't right with the picture but hope someone with more knowledge and less excitement about it can pinpoint the telltale signs.

Glen