1871 Census Whang St Beith

[carol80]

Trying to find out if a John Love lived in this Street in the 1871 census.
I have a John Love b 5 Nov 1803 Beith Ch 9 Nov 1803. d 6 April 1872 Whang Street, Beith. His parents were Hugh Love and Margaret Bradshaw.
This is all i have on this John.
If he is there can i have any  info on who was with him etc
Many Thanks
Carol.

[hume]

Had a look and it looks like Mitchell Street.

John Love, head, married, 67, house factor (?), Ayrshire Beith
Margaret Love, wife, married, 65, - , Ayrshire Dalry

Hope this helps.

[tidybooks]

Hugh Love married Margaret Bradshaw at Beith on 14 August 1796 

Children were – all born an christened at Beith where noted -
Hugh c May 1797 (Child death)
Philip c Apr 1799
Jean b Jul 1801 c 02 Aug 1801
John b 05 Nov 1803 c 09 Nov 1803 - twins
Hugh b 05 Nov 1803 c 09 Nov 1803 – twins (Child death again)
Margaret b 2 Feb 1806 c 16 Feb 1806 (Child death)
Allan b 04 Mar 1814 c 18 Mar 1814
Robert b 20 Feb 1816
Margaret b 14 Nov 1809 c 19 Nov 1809
Hugh b 10 Feb 1808

Therefore John was a twin but his brother Hugh did not survive childbrith, as a 3rd Hugh was born in 1808.

[tidybooks]

In the 1881 Census, at Mitchell Street  John's widow, Margaret K. Love is shown still living there aged 74 and was born in Dalry, Ayrshire.
   

[carol80]

Thank you. That means i have the right John.
You are just missing James b 1812
Hugh Love and Margaret Bardshaw were hubby's 3x g grandparents so John was his 2x g Uncle.
Now to find his family.
At least i know his wife is Margaret.
Many Thanks
Carol

[tidybooks]

http://www.ayrshireroots.co.uk/Genealogy/Records/Census/1881/1881.htm
follow this link, someone has extracted all "Love" surnames from 1881 census in Ayrshire, could be worthwhile.

[suzy]

I have just read these postings.  I have had great difficulty finding my Scottish ancestors; they all seem to have the same name, thanks to the Scottish family naming system!  However, having just seen the 1911 census I think I have made some headway. 

These are my deductions. I believe that John (b 1803) and Margaret Love of 6 Mitchel Street Beith were my great great grandparents; their son Robert (b 1842) married Janet Rodger Barbour in Liverpool and moved to St Albans in the 1870s where my grandfather was born in 1874.  I have Robert's date of birth from the 1881 English census and his place of birth as Beith in the 1911 census.  I can find no other Robert Loves born in Beith in 1842.  The earlier Scottish censuses show John and Margaret had a son Robert born about 1842/3 in Beith, so with the naming system of John - Robert - John - Robert - I am assuming this is my family. Occupations link: in Beith Robert was a cotton spinner - he ended up being a master draper in St Albans.

John and Margaret as parents are quite old; the 1851 census shows Robert age 12 with a 21 year old sister.  I take it that children in between these two ages would have died?

1881 Census has Margaret living alone in Mitchel Street; she is called Margaret K Love.  I am wondering if she was called Margaret Kerr before her marriage, hence the K.  I cannot find a Margaret Kerr so far, and I am wondering if she was the daughter of Andrew Kerr and Janet Rodger married in Dalry on 13 Ocober 1792. 

(Andrew and Janet's daughter Agnes married Peter Barbour in 1841 in Dalry; she is my great great grandmother).   If Margaret and Agnes are sisters, then my great grandparents would be cousins (as family tradition has it).

Do you think my deductions would be right?  And with the postings I have just read, I will have gone back another generation!  I would be grateful for any help you can give. 

With many thanks

Suzy

[tidybooks]

I have just read these postings.  I have had great difficulty finding my Scottish ancestors; they all seem to have the same name, thanks to the Scottish family naming system!  However, having just seen the 1911 census I think I have made some headway. 

Hi Suzy,

Did you see Scottish 1911 census on line already, thought it was not online until next year.

Tom

[seekthem]

Hi Tom,
Suzys Robert moved to England so it will be the 1911 English Census.  When I read your entry I went straight on to SP then I realised.  Like you cant wait for the Scottish 1911 Census!
Liz