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Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« on: Saturday 06 January 07 00:45 GMT (UK) »
Does anyone have a copy of the 'Apprenticeship Bindings Index 1692 - 1908' by the Parish Chest and if so would you kindly do a look up for me?
I am looking for reference to William Howlett b. 1856.
Many thanks,
Emma
Howlett - London, Buckinghamshire
Cole - Peterborough
Huggins - London

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 01 February 07 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have a copy of the CD but cannot find a William Howlett that could have been born in 1856. The ones listed are either bound 1863 or after 1887.
Can you give any further details fathers name, year bound as apprentice, parish etc. and I will have another try.

Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 February 07 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue

What period does your CD cover. I'm looking for details of Benjamin Gilliard b some time between 1784 - 1793, Prittlewell, Essex. The 1841 and 1851 census shows him in Maidstone, occupation waterman.

Regards Genna
Brassington - Leek
Byrne - Liverpool and Macclesfield
Crooks - Liverpool and St Helens
Chittenden - Kent
Gorse - St Helens
Martin - Kent and India
Rimmer, Scott - Lancashire
Little - India
Gilliard - Essex and Kent
Brookes, Woolley - Worcestershire

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 February 07 16:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi Genna

The copy of the CD I have is from 1692 - 1949 for the River Thames.
Going of what you have told me, Benjamin living in Maidstone he may have worked on the Medway.

I had a look anyway and found a few.

Name                      Binding            Location                         Master                       Freedom
GILLARD JOHN        13/11/1845     WAPPING CHARLES        THOMAS FARRIER       00/00/0000

GILLARD THOMAS    22/07/1698     GRINWICH                     THOMAS PERRINTON  00/00/0000

Hope this helps.

Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 February 07 16:32 GMT (UK) »
Sue

I just 'fell upon' this thread and wondered if you would mind looking on your CD for me - hope you don't mind me asking but if I can find evidence of my gr.grandfather it might lead me to finding his son!

According to my grandfather's marriage certificate (he was born c.1883) his father WILLIAM WELCH was a Lighterman and according to the family my grandfather came from SE London (Camberwell) area so IF his father was a lighterman it would have been on the Thames.

Apologies for butting in on the thread.

Regards
Sandie
Lewis & Davies in Glam.
Richards & Roberts,  in Carmarthen & Glam.
Bowen & Morgans in Carm.
Walters & Mort in Glam.
Dinmore, in SE London (prev.Surrey & Kent), Lowestoft & Yorks.
Collier/Collyer, Tyler & Welch in SE London(prev.Surrey)

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 February 07 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue

Thanks for doing the lookup. I agree with you that he probably worked on the Medway but I haven't found a database for watermen/lightermen working on the Medway, not even at Cityark so I thought it was worth a shot.

Regards Genn
Brassington - Leek
Byrne - Liverpool and Macclesfield
Crooks - Liverpool and St Helens
Chittenden - Kent
Gorse - St Helens
Martin - Kent and India
Rimmer, Scott - Lancashire
Little - India
Gilliard - Essex and Kent
Brookes, Woolley - Worcestershire

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 February 07 17:13 GMT (UK) »
Sandie

I have had a look for you, there are alot of Welch's but no William. If you have any other names I can go on.  I could let you know if they appear.


Genna

Have you tried parishregister.com they sell cds of Medway.

Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 February 07 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Sue

Thank you very much for looking, unfortunately I haven't any other names as I haven't been able to locate my grandfather & his family yet.

Looks like my grandfather may have 'promoted' his dad when he spoke to the vicar!!  Thanks again for looking.

Regards
Sandie
Lewis & Davies in Glam.
Richards & Roberts,  in Carmarthen & Glam.
Bowen & Morgans in Carm.
Walters & Mort in Glam.
Dinmore, in SE London (prev.Surrey & Kent), Lowestoft & Yorks.
Collier/Collyer, Tyler & Welch in SE London(prev.Surrey)

All census transcriptions are Crown Copyright

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 February 07 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sandie

Pleasure to help.

Sue

Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk