ITALY: Sleeping with the enemy

[pennine]

I have a relative that had a child to an Italian Prisoner of War who was captured when the Italians were on the German side. He was brought to England to live in a camp and work here in the mid 1940s he was allowed to return to Italy in the early 1950s.  He was working on such things as road repairs and she had a shop at the side of this road. She, had had a son to him in 1947 and passed this child off as her husbands. However, it was glaringly apparent that the son was of different stock to his older and a younger sibling, being dark skinned and black haired.  Siblings, fair skinned, hair brown to fair. Son has now got a name for the man which he managed to extract from his mother before she died, how would he go about tracing his natural father whom we presume is in Italy if indeed still alive?
Pennine

[sheronb]

From what i know of, with my own Italian research, i should imagine you need a town of birth!! Without a town its very difficult, but as this is a later birth, than mine, maybe there is another way.

This site is very useful, i would join and ask them.


http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/index.php

They have helped me lots.

[liverpool annie]

Hi pennine !!

You didn't say which part of England you were looking at ..... there were many POW camps in England  at that time ..... for different nationalities  maybe if you see a camp in the area you're looking at - you can Google for that particular camp and see what you can find !!  

List of POW Camps in Britain

1. Grizedale Hall, Hawkshead, Ambleside, Lancashire
2. Toft Hall, Knutsford Cheshire
4. Scraptoft, Thurnby, Leicester & Gilling Camp, Richmond N. Yorkshire.
5. (Unknown Camp) Northern Ireland
6. (Unknown Camp) Northern Ireland & Long Marston Stratford-on-Avon Warwickshire & Doncaster / W.Yorks
7. Winter Quarters, Ascot, Windsor Berks
8. Mile House, Owestry, Salop & Sheriffhales, Shinfal, Salop
9. Kempton Park Race Course, Sunbury on Thames, Middx & Quorn Loughborough, Leicester
10. Gosford Camp, Markethall, Armagh, Northern Ireland
11. Island Farm, Bridgend, Glamorgan & Trent Park Camp, Southgate, Middx
12. Elmfield Camp, Gilford, Portadown, Northern Ireland & Bury , Manchester, Lancashire
13. Shap Fells Hotel, Shap, Penrith, Wales
14. Bun Camp, Doonfoot, Ayr, Scotland
15. Donalsons School, West Coates, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
16. Gosford Camp, Aberlady, Longniddry, East Lothian, Scotland
17. Lodge Moor Camp, Sheffield, Yorkshire & London W2 (GPC), London
18. Featherstone Park, Haltwhistle, Northumbria
19. Happendon Camp, Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland
20. Bickham Camp, Yelverton, Tavistock, Devon
21. Comrie, Perth, Scotland
22. Pennylands Camp, Cummnock, Ayr Scotland.
23. The Marchent Camp, Devizes, Wiltshire & Sudbury, Derbyshire and Shrewsbury (GPC), Salop
24. Knutsford (MH) Cheshire
25. Lodge Farm, Farncombe, Down, Lambourn, Berkshire & Leamington (GPC), Warwickshire
26. Barton Field Camp, Ely, Cambridgeshire
27. Ledbury, Herefordshire & Nottingham (GPC)
28. Knighthorpe Camp, Ashby Road, Loughborough, Leicestershire
29. Royston Heath Camp, Royston, Hertfordshire. Ormskirk (GH) Lancashire & Abergavenny (GPC), South Wales.
30. Carpenters Road, Stratford, East London E15 & Aldershot (GPC) Hanpshire
31. Ettington Park, Newbold Upon Stour, stratford-Upon-Avon
32. Wormwood Scrubs, Shepard's Bush, London, W12
33. Dancer's Hill, South Mimms, Barnet, Hertfordshire & Shorncliffe Camp, Folstone (GPC), Kent
35. Boughton Park, Boughton, Nuneaton, Northhamptonshire.
36. Hartwell Dog Track, Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire & Bridgewater (GPC), Somerset.
37. Sudeley Castle, Winchcombe, Cheltenham, Gloucester
38. Pool Park, Ruthin, Denbighs.
39. Castle Maxstoke, Coleshill, Warwickshire
40. Somerhill Camp, Tonbridge, Kent.
41. Ganger Camp, Romsey, Hampshire.
42. Exhibition Field Cp. Holsworthy, Devon
43. Harcourt Hill, North Ilnksey, Berkshire
44. Goathurst Camp, Bridgewater, Somerset.
45. Trumpington, Cambridgeshire
46. Kingsfold Camp, Billinghurst, West Sussex
47. Motcombe Park, Shaftsbury, Dorset.
48. Greenfield Farm, Presteigne, Radnor
49. Harrington Camp, Farndon Road, Market Harborough, Leicester

[liverpool annie]

Continued !! 

50. Garswood Park, Ashton-in-Markerfield, Wigan Lancashire
51. Allington, Grantham, Kesteven, Lincolnshire
52. Nether Headon Camp, Retford, Nottinghamshire
53. Sandbeds Camp, Brayton, Selby, Yorkshire
54. Longbridge Camp, Hampton Lovett, Droitwich, Worcester
55. Shalstone, Buckinghamshire
56. Dotesdale, Diss, East Suffolk.
57. Merrow Downs Camp, Guildford, Surrey
58. Belper, Derbyshire & Swanwick, Derbyshire
59. Wood Walton Lane, Sawtry
60. Oerdale Camp, Skipton, Yorkshire & Huddersfield, Bradford, Yorkshire
61. Wynolls Hill, Broadwell, Coleford, Gloucestershire
62. The MoorCamp, Thankerton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
63. Balhery Est. Camp, Alyth, Perth, Scotland
64. Castle Rakine, Denny, Stirling, Scotland
65. Setley Plain, Brokenhust, Hampshire & Preston (GPC) Lancashire.
66. Calvine, Blair Atholl, Perth, Scotland & Dundee, Angus, Scotland
67. Sandyhillock Camp, Craigellachie, Banff.
68. Halmuir Farm, Lockerbie, Dumfries, Scotland.
69. Darras Hall, Ponteland, Newcastle Upon Tyne.
70.Henllan Bridge Camp, Henllan, Llandyssul, Cardigan, Wales
71. Sheriffhales, Shinfal, Salop, Newmarket (GPC) West Suffolk.
72. Ducks Cross Camp, Colmworth, Bedfordshire
73. Storwood Camp, Melbourne, Yorkshire
74. Racecourse Camp, Tarporley, Cheshire
75. Northern Hill Camp, Laurencekirk, Kincardine
76. Merry Thought Camp, Calthwaite, Penrith, Cumberland.
77. Aunsmuir Camp, Ladybank, Fife, Scotland.
78. High Garret, Braintree, Essex,
79. Moorby, Revesby, Boston, Lindesy, Lincolnshire.
80. Horbling, Sleaford, Kesteven, Lincolnshire
81. Pingley Farm, Brigg, Lindsey, Lincolnshire
82. Hempton Green Camp, fakenham, Norfolk, & Aldborough, Norfol
83. Eden Camp, Old Malton, Malton, Yorkshire
84. Sheet Camp, Ludlow, Salop.
85. Victoria camp, Brandon Road, Mildenhall, Bury St. Edmunds, West Suffolk
86. Stanhope Camp, Ashford, Kent & Woodchurch, Ashford, Kent
87. Byfield Camp, Rugby, Warwickshire
88. Mortimer, reading, Berkshire
89. Easton Grey Camp, Malmesbury, wiltshire
90. Friday Bridge, Wisbach, Cambridgeshire
91. Post Hill Camp, Farnley, Leeds, Yorkshire
92. Bampton Road, Tiverton, Devon
93. Harperley Camp, Fir Tree, Crook, Co. Durham & Oaklands Emergancy Hospital, Bishop Aukland, Co. Durham
94. Gaulby Road, Billesdon, Leicester
95. Batford Camp, Harpenden, Staffordshire
96. Wolseley Road, Rugley, Staffodshire
97. Birdinbury, Bourton, Rugby, Warwickshire
98. Little Addington, Kettering, Northamptonsire
99. shugborough Park, great Haywood (GH) Staffordshire
100. St. Martins, Owestry, Salop
101. Glandulas Camp, Newton, Montgomery
102. Llanddarog, Camarthen
103. Moota Camp, Cockermouth, Northumbria
104. Beela River, Milnthorpe, Westmorland
105. Brewery Road, Wooler, Northumbria & Colinton Camp, Edinburgh (GPC) Midlothian
106. Stamford, Kesteven, Lincolnshire
107. Penleigh Camp, Wookey Hole, Wells, Somerset.
108. Thirkleby, Thirsk, Yorks
109. Brahan Castle, Dingwall, Ross and County
110. Stuartfield, Mintlaw, Aberdeen
111. Deer Park Camp, Moneymusk, Aberdeen
112. Kingendengh Camp, Mauchline Ayr, Scotland & Doonfoot, Ayr
113. Holm Park Camp, Newton Stewart, Wigtown.
114. Eden Vale Camp, Westbury Wiltshire
115. White Cross Camp, St. Columb Major Cornwall
116. Mill Lane, Hatfield Heath, Bishops Stortford, Essex
117. Waiderslade camp, Chatham, Kent
118. Mardy, Abergavenny, Wales
119. Pabo Hall Camp, llandudno Junction, Caernarvon
120. Sunlaws Camp, Kelso, Roxburgh
121. Racecourse Camp, Ripon, Yorkshire & Knaresborough Yorkshire
122. Raynor's Lane, Harrow-on-the-Hill, Middx & Hatch End, Harrow-on-the Hill, Middlesex.
123. Dalmahoy Camp, Kirkwenton, Midlothian, Scotland.
124. Wapley Camp, Yate, Bristol
125. Newland House, Tooting Bec. Road, Tooting Bec Common, London SW17.
126. Mellands Camp, Gorton, Manchester, Lancashire
127. Potters Hill, HighGreen, Sheffield, Yorkshire.
128. Meesden, Buntingford, Hertfordshire
129. Ashford Lodge Camp, Halstead, Essex
130. West Fen Militia, Ely, Cambridge.
131. Uplands Camp, Diss, Norfolk
134. Loxley Hall, Utoxeter, Staffordshire
135. Stanbury House, Spencers Wood, Reading, Berkshire
136. High Hall, Bishop Burton, Beverly, Yorkshire
137. Hazeldene Camp, Elburton, Plymouth, Devon
138. The Rectory Camp, Bassingham, Kesteven, Lincolnshire
139. Wolviston Hall, Wolviston, Billingham, Durham
140. Racecourse Camp, Warwick, Warwickshire
141. Beeson House, St. Neots
142. Gloucester, Gloucestershire
143. Carlton Hall, Carlton, Worksop, Nottinghamshire
144. Ruskin Avenue, Kew, Richmond Surrey
145. Normanhurst Camp, Battle, East Sussex
146. Newton Camp, Preston, Lancashire
147. Boar's Head, Walgherton, Nantwich, Cheshire
148. Castlethorpe Hall Camp, Castlethorpe, Brigg, Lindley, Lincolnshire
151. Pendeford hall, Codsall, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire & Coven, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire & Halfpenny Green, Wolverhampton, Staffordshire

152. Old Liberal Club, Charnwood Road, Shepshed, Loughborough
153. Fulney Park Camp, Spalding, Lincolnshire
154. Minister ofWorks Camp,swanscombe, Dartford, Kent.
155. Hornby Hall Camp, Penrith, Scotland
156. The Heath Camp, Wellingore, Kesteven Lincolnshire
157. Bourton Camp, Bourton-on-the-Hill, Moreton-in-Marsh, Gloucestershire
159. Butterwick, Yorkshire
160. Lydiard Park, Purton, Swindon, Wiltshire
161. Grangefield, Gloucester (MH) Belfast, Northern Ireland.
162. Naeburn (MH) Yorkshire

 

[RJ_Paton]

If you contact the Anglo-Italian FHS they may be able to point you in the right direction or at least give some advice regarding the difficulties faced

http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk/

[pennine]

Hello everyone a big big thank you for this very informative information and the suggested websites, which I shall pass on to the relie in question asap.

Annie thanks for transcribing that huge list of camps for me that was so kind of you and very useful information to have for the future too it was very nice of you to go to all that trouble,

All you lovely people never fail to amaze me with your knowledge!!!!!Thanks again.

Pennine

[Giuseppe]

My grandad was an Italian   Prisoner In WW2 we know he had a son we know he worked on a farm round Cambridge newmarket roystone area have a photo

[pennine]

Thank you for your interest Guiseppe. However my original post was made in 2007 and since then we have moved on and traced the person concerned. Sorry not to have been any help to you.
Pennine