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[Dolgellau]

The only Edwin Jones that I can see in the Tywyn area in 1871 is a four year old boy.

If I remember rightly, your research isn't into "ancestry" as such. but into those who your grandfather mentioned in his musical diary.

Might he have taught a 4 year old? If so I can send you the details.

[Dolgellau]

You might have told us before, if so, can I have a reminder. Who was your grandfather, and why did he keep a musical diary for Merioneth?

[Quarryman]

Hi Dolgellau,

This is a sideshoot to my ancestry research.

My grandfather, the Victorian composer John Henry Roberts (the bard Pencerdd Gwynedd) was the clerk/secretary at Bryneglwys quarry near Abergynolwyn from 1866 until 1871. He formed a choir which competed at the Harlech Festival, and after some success he was persuaded to enter the Royal Academy of Music in London (funded by a committee of local businessmen and ohers, from which he graduated in 1874 and subsequently gained a B.Mus from Cambridge, composed more than 400 hymn tunes (many in use today) and after becoming organist at Turf Square church, Caernarfon, moved to Liverpool to a similar post. He left the diary (or a fragment of it (1870/71) and I have traced many of the names in it - others are proving difficult.

[Peterej]

Hi Quarryman

I have an Edwin Jones living at Cadvans House Faenol aged 29 born in Rhos Denbighshire which is probably Rhosllanerchrugog near Wrexham and described as a (school) conductor of an academy
married to Mary Ann aged 26 from Bala
with 3 children Elizabeth aged 4 and two with what looks like Edwards as a surname which I do not understand as they are younger
also 3 servants
If you would like a copy of the image please PM me your email address ( I think we have done that before)

Peter

[Quarryman]

Hi peter,

Sorry couldn't get the image, as ancestry wanted to download a 2mb piece of software on me!

However, I looked at my Merioneth 1871 census CD and couldn't find pieces 5602 or 5603 anywhere.
Is it possible they have been missed off - or are they somewhere else.

Regards

Bradley

[Peterej]

Hi Bradley

Send me another PM with your email (I have deleted previous) and I will save the image on my PC and fwd as an attachment assuming you have imaging software.

I think that should work

Peter

[Peterej]

Incidentally it is RG10/5602 - where did you buy your CD?

Peter

[Dolgellau]

However, I looked at my Merioneth 1871 census CD and couldn't find pieces 5602 or 5603 anywhere.
Is it possible they have been missed off - or are they somewhere else.

This is a general problem with Census CDs. They are usually sold on a (pre 1974) "county" basis. Unfortunately the census wasn't organised through county structures before the 1901 census. (County Councils came into existence in about 1888). They were organised on Registration Districts.

Tywyn, Aberdyfi, Abergynolwyn, Pennal, Mallwyd and Dinas Mawddwy have all been part of the Machynlleth (Montgomeryshire) RD, so their census returns might be in on the Montgomeryshire disc, if the CD is part of a "national" project.

I have had similar problems in buying discs for Ysbyty Ifan (Caernarfonshire) in Llanrwst (Denbighshire) RD, Worthen (Shropshire) in Forden (Montgomeryshire) Rd etc. It is something that the disc providers should sort out, because nobody wants to fork out thirty to forty quid for a disk that turns out to be worthless because the records that you expect to be there are on a completely different disc that costs a further £40.

[Peterej]

Hi Dolgellau

Thanks for the explanation. I wondered why a Denbighshire CD I purchased a couple of years ago missed out some parts which I discovered were in Cheshire. I telephoned the company and explained and happily they sent me that part of a Cheshire CD gratis.


Peter