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Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:04 GMT (UK) »
Isabella Hall of Wooler in Northumberland married John Lee about 1899 at Wooler.  I don't have any more of the Halls of Wooler. 
John Lee (about 1885) born Wooler,
Isabella Lee (born Kirknewton) and
John W. Lee (born 1899) born Wooler. (Isabellas husband). (I assume 'W' is for William, a William at Berwick-on-the-Tweed, going back)
AGAIN family names: Alice, John, Isabella, John.
Any information on any of these family members would be most welcome.bobh
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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Good morning,
there's only one Isabella Hall b Kirknewton on censuses so hopefully it's her.

1871  RG11; Piece: 5134; Folio: 66; Page: 5
Milfield Hill, Milfield

John Hall 29 yrs ag labourer b Kirknewton
Mary 31yrs b Ford
Thomas 6 yrs b Ford
Isabella 5 yrs b Kirknewton
Ellen 3yrs n Kirknewton

best wishes
heywood
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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello Bobh

I'm slightly confused with your dates - but is this your family in 1901?

Dalhousie Place Wooler RG13/4849 63/31

John Lee head M 26 Plumber Northumberland Wooler
Isabella Lee wife M 28        do     Kirknewton
John W Lee son 2              do     Wooler

Trish
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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:17 GMT (UK) »
1891  RG12; Piece: 4270; Folio 138; Page 6

same address

John Hall 39 yrs farm steward
Mary 41 yrs
Thomas 16 yrs ag labourer
Isabella 15 yrs ag labourer
Ellen 13 yrs
Mary Ann 8 yrs
Wilhelmina 4 yrs

all born Kirknewton except Mary and Thomas
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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Dear Haywood, Many thanks for your prompt reply. Looks good, I will let you know it if it fits the tree.Bobh
Blakelock, Brown, Castleton, Edwards, Galliford, Groves, Hall, Holland, Huggins, Ions, Packer, Smith, Womack.

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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:27 GMT (UK) »
Dear Heywood and Trish, Here is more information re the Hall tree which may help. Thank you.bobh

The line that most relates to the Wooler line is Isabella Hall. 
She was born about 1873/1883, I must have done a typo, at West Newton, Northumberland.  (
She married John Lee about 1899 at Wooler.  I don't have any more of the Halls of Wooler. 
John Lee (about 1885) born Wooler,
Isabella Lee (born Kirknewton) and
John W. Lee (born 1899) born Wooler. (Isabellas husband). (I assume 'W' is for William, a William at Berwick-on-the-Tweed, going back)
AGAIN family names: Alice, John, Isabella, John.

My family line goes like this:
Alison Gibson nee Alice Hall was born/christened 21 02 1841 in Chirnside, Scotland.  (if there is any slight difference in ages between censuses, I think that the English did their census on a different month)

Children of Alice Hall nee Alison Gibson :(ages may vary between English and Scottish ages)

Robert Hall (born in Scotland, D.O.B. about 1865) (missing off a census when young- they are on the 1881 census only)
John Hall (born in Shotten, D.O.B. about 1866) (missing off a census when young- they are on the 1881 census only - there is actually a John Hall illeg. son of Alice Hall 28/2/1869 but I don't know if that is him or not?)
Mary Hall (place born Shotten D.O.B. about 1868 m. Thomas Lee (about 1867 ...ham, children Alice Lee born about 1898, Carham and George Lee born about 1900, same place
Annie Hall (place born West Newton, Parish Kirknewton), D.O.B. about 1870
Isabella Hall (place born same as Annie, about 1873) m. John Lee D.O.B about 1875 children include John Lee about 1899, Wooler etc.
George Hall (place born same as Annie & Isabella, about 1874) He became a police officer - 14 Hawthorn road, Coxlodge Parish).  (records should be easy to find)
Jane Hall (last child) - born about 1877 place same as other later children.  About 1877.

FAMILY HISTORY
 Alice Gibson was born Alison Gibson in Chirnside.  Her grandparents (Thomas & Elizabeth Hailstones) died in Chirnside (about the same time - working in the paper manufacturing industry) and Mary, thier daughter was born in Lingthigow.  (though this is harder to confirm because the census doesn't go back this far).

Alice's  mother Mary Hailstones, died early, like Robert Gibson (her father, even early). 

Alice Gibson married George Hall (born Paston I think), Alice was about 20 years having had (many connections, ie. paper manufacturing of Chirnside) - All this is in Scotlands People.

Thomas went to visit Elizabeth & WIlliam Hall (when they were in their sixties, grandparents of George Hall, I assume - at Berwick-on-the-Tweed). 
On a later census, a John Hall a student teacher, one of Alisons sons I assume, lodged there, after WIlliam died, he'd have been in his seventies.

EXTENSION OF MARY HALL LINE
Family of East Learmont , this is my latest census (of one of the older children of Alice, I think Robert or John, see how they've got the most similar names to the earliest generation, Thomas, Mary, Alice, George - all names from Chirnside - George Hall also worked in the papermill in Chirnside)
Thomas Lee (born something - '---ham)
Mary Lee (Kirknewton)
Alice Lee  (Carham)
George Lee  (Carham)

SIDE-LINES in research ie. Isabella and William could possibly relate as uncles, aunts etc. or even parents (the children of William and Elizabeth Hall of Berwick-on-the-Tweed)

An Isabella and WIlliam (I think could be related) being family names, has these children all born in Lowick.  ( as well as Andrew (Chirnside), a family name). 
There is an Andrew Hall (age 36 - Newcastle-upon-tyne), ELizabeth Hall (34 - Glendale) and Jane Hall (37 - Glendale) - on the 1861 census.

I listed some names I made from the Brisbane library, Northumberland.  An example.
The most recent names I've looked up and due to hames, look most promising, is a Margaret Jane Hall 32, spinster married Patrick Gohn Edward, 35 13/9/1939 - she has 3 family names and is in Northumberland.

Have a John Hall parish of Doddington married a Margaret Sanderson - March/April 1894 - could be John Hall D.O.B. 1866
A James Hall of West Newton 26/1/1928 84 years old. (right area, as Kirknewton) - these plus numerous others.

KIRKNEWTON NEIGHBOURS

Neighbours in the Hall family (about late 1800's, Kirknewton) John Hall (Warlaw 1854))marries Mary Hall (D.O.B. 1858) children James Hall (D.O.B. about 1878 Kirknewton and George Hall D.O.B.  about 1880 Kirknewton. 

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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:39 GMT (UK) »
I think the family I listed in 1901 is not Isabella nee Hall - the only suitable marriage I could find was Sep 1897
LEE  John Thomas     Glendale  10b 670
marrying Isabella Rutherford.

Isabella Rutherford was born Kirknewton - and became Isabella Lee. Is she a different person to your Isabella Hall?

It also seems from your later post that your Isabella Hall is not the one listed by Haywood - you have her mother as Alice hall (nee Alison Gibson?) Did Alison/Alice Gibson marry  a man called Hall?

Are you mainly looking for aunts/cousins/living relatives?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I am unsure that I can give any useful information.

Trish

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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 February 07 11:40 GMT (UK) »
Here's the confusion

Your Isabella has a place of birth as West Newton in 1881 and is transcribed as Hale in 1891 with a place of birth as Kirknewton- hence the mix-up

best wishes
heywood
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Re: Isabella Hall, Wooler, Northumberland
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 August 15 10:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Bobh,

I'm completely new to this and I see you haven't posted in 8 years but here goes! I'm a Hall and my family originate in Wooler. My Dad is Robin John (b. 1956) Grandpa is John (b. 1920). John had 4 brothers. Their Dad was Adam Oliver and that's all I've got so far. They (and a lot of other Halls) come from in Glendale, Wooler. Not sure if that's much help.

Rachael.