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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 30 May 10 16:12 BST (UK) »
Ranelagh road WAS an awesome place to live "greensleeves" We lived there 11 years in total... we were nearer to the town end of the road, the houses seemed to get bigger as you went up the road... and we were about 6 from the end. massive garden, backing right onto the railway line! no steam trains tho :-( but thankfully the line behind our house was purely used a s a siding. always a squirrel or two in the garden. loved it! also, thanks to Pat for your information on stoke park. I will try the website you have advised.
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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 30 May 10 16:27 BST (UK) »
Spotty Frog, when you have sent another post, that will make the three that you need to be able to exchange PMs (private messages) to your Inbox on here.

I will then PM you the email address of the chap who has written booklets about the area - he is the Local History Recorder for that area of Ipswich and the chair of the local history group there.

Pat ...

Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 30 May 10 16:29 BST (UK) »
Sorry to mis-spell your name, I have been watching the little frogs in my garden today.  Have frogs on the brain at the moment  ::)

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 30 May 10 16:32 BST (UK) »
thats quite alright Pat!  ;D Thanks again for the information.
Tracie


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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 12:22 BST (UK) »
I also have an interest in addresses in Ipswich. Two of my ancestors, John Denny and Emma Eliza Block, were married at the parish church of St Clements, Ipswich, on April 20, 1878. On their certificate, John's address is given as 6 Orford Place, St Clements, and Emma's as 9 Potter Street, St Clements. I can't find either road on a modern map. Do they still exist? If not, where were they?

One of their offspring, Alice Maud Mary Denny, was born on November 14, 1881, and the place of her birth is given on her certificate simply as Key Street, Ipswich. I believe, on the evidence of census returns, that this was actually the Maltsters Arms, long gone. The excellent Old Suffolk Pubs website gives some details of the pub/beerhouse but no picture and it seems probable that none exists if they haven't been able to raise one. But does anyone have a picture of Key Street itself as it was in those days? I'd really like to see one. I've not been able to visit the area since I discovered the family connection, and won't be able to soon,  and I understand that it has changed beyond all recognition.

John Denny and his brother Robert certainly kept the Maltsters Arms (is it spelt Maltsters or Malsters?) either together or separately at some time. But by the time Alice's mother registered her birth (which she did on Christmas Eve 1881), although the occupation of father is given as publican, the mother's address is given as 20 Orwell Street, Ipswich. Was that also a pub or beerhouse? I haven't been able to answer that question myself.

I don't think that John and his wife had separated. They were certainly still together when they later moved to Debenham and took over the Eight Bells there.

In summary...
1 Where are/were 6 Orford Place and 9 Potter Street, both in St Clements.
2 Was 20 Lower Orwell Street a pub/beerhouse? Does a picture exist?
3 Are there any pictures of Key Street as it was in the 1800s?

Thank you for reading this. AF
Denny (Suffolk, Essex and Yorkshire), Mayhew (Great Oakley and Beaumont cum Moze, Essex), Everson, Lambert, Catchpool, Block, Moyse and Read (all Suffolk).

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 14:41 BST (UK) »
I have looked at my 1902 map of Ipswich (Alan Godfrey Maps at www.alangodfreymaps.co.uk) and this area is where a lot of clearance took place in the 1960s.  It is where the 'old' Suffolk College development took place and of course very close to the docks - now completely refurbished and home to Suffolk University Campus.

Between Key Street (still there) - Fore Street - Lower Orwell Street (still there) was home to several Maltsters, there were Malthouses all around the area.

Orwell Street - there is Upper Orwell Street that leads into Lower Orwell Street, so maybe she left of the first part of the street name?

Best source of photographs is of course The Suffolk Photographic Survey which is housed at the Ipswich branch of the Suffolk Record Office.

There are some photographs of this area of Ipswich Waterfront (old docks) at
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/09fd/   

Pat ...





Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 15:41 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for your interest, Pat, and for the two websites, which I shall look at this evening. Unfortunately, I'm not able to get to Ipswich at the present time and so I shall not be able to take a look at the Suffolk picture collection. Perhaps in days past Orwell Street was simply that, and not split into Upper and Lower. Whatever, I'd still like to know if No 20 (Upper or Lower) was a pub. AF
Denny (Suffolk, Essex and Yorkshire), Mayhew (Great Oakley and Beaumont cum Moze, Essex), Everson, Lambert, Catchpool, Block, Moyse and Read (all Suffolk).

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 16:36 BST (UK) »
Certainly on the 1902 map the road was in two sections, the Lower part being nearest to the docks.

The SRO also have old maps of Ipswich from different years, I have a couple of them clip-framed, however since we put yet another book shelf in this room, the pictures have disappeared.  ::)

Might be worth having a look at the SRO website and checking out the maps and parish packs for sale.

Pat ...
Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?

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Re: Addresses in Ipswich 1914
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 10 August 10 16:39 BST (UK) »
PS 

the Suffolk Sense of Place website has been revamped and is now back on line - not sure if any photographs there that might help?

http://www.suffolkheritagedirect.org.uk/

Pat ...

Every time I find an ancestor,
I have to find two more!

SUFFOLK - Pendle, Stygall, Pipe, Fruer, Bridges, Fisk, Bellamy, Sparham - all link to  Framlingham 
DERBY - Bridges and Frost (originally Framlingham/Parham)
NOTTINGHAM - Lambert & Selby
BERKSHIRE/then Hammersmith LDN - Fulker
LDN/MDX - Murray, Clancy, Broker, Hoskins, Marsden, Wilson, Sale
 
GGfather Michael Wilson born Cork, lived Fulham London - moved to Boston USA 1889, what happened next?