Elizabeth ALLEN, daughter of Joseph ALLEN

[Philezra]

She was born on 23 August 1839 in Plymouth Lane (?) to Joseph but I do not know his wife's name.

Elizabeth married George Crago (born in West Looe 1836) in 1856 - I know his father was George (Christened 25/12/1803), but again, I do not know HIS wife's name.........

Anybody have the answers?

many thanks
Phil

[jayres]

According to the IGI George Crago's wife was also called Elizabeth, but no surname was given and I can't find a marriage on there.

Judy

[Philezra]

Thanks Judy - I though that - I wondered if it was me being dumb - very frustrating.......trip to truro I think.

thank you for replying - appreciate it

best wishes
Phil

[osprey]

do you have either George or Elizabeth on a census prior to marriage? Without father's occupation from marriage certificate, this looks an ok match for George
George Crago baptised 11/5/1836 at West Looe Independent son of George and Elizabeth.
George Crago married Betty Andrew 26/9/1826 in Liskeard

1841 Trewidland Cottage, Liskeard H0107/153/10 folio 56 pg 7
George Crago 35 ag lab
Elizabeth 35
Jane 5
George 5
Thomas 2
all born in county

1851 Trewidland , Liskeard H0107/1902 folio 282 pg 16
George Crago head mar 48 ag lab
Betty wife 49
Samuel son 23 lead miner
Jane dau 17 house servant
Sarah dau 8 scholar
all born Liskeard

there's an Elizabeth Allen daughter of Joseph, a fisherman, in Kea - any use?
 

[Philezra]

Thanks for this - where did you obtain George Crago marrying Betty Andrew? Great stuff though.

IGI has Joseph Allen marrying MRS JOSEPH ALLEN!!! so i still don't know his wife's maiden name

Thanks again for providing me with this - I have another name and that is terrific.

Best wishes
Phil

[osprey]

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Structure/Parishes.htm#J

both good places to search. Think the marriage came from the Cornwall Marriages Index.
I wouldn't put too much trust in the submitted records on the IGI which is what you have if the name is Mrs Joseph Allen. The ones you need are the extracted records with batch numbers - taken from the actual parish records, rather than added by members of the LDS. George's baptism is on the IGI -  batch number C065471. other children were baptised
Samuel at Duloe 9/9/1827 batch no. C052771 son of George & Elizabeth
Jane at St Keyne 16/2/1834 batch no C053201 daughter of George & Betty
can't spot Sarah 

Do you have Elizabeth and George's marriage certificate? If you do, it should be possible to search for Elizabeth on census with father Joseph and using his occupation as a way to confirm findings. Only one I spotted was the one in Kea, but I didn't look very hard. 1841 census of Cornwall is on FreeCen. 
http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

[Philezra]

thank you - am learning all the time about what is actually available online - you've been a great great help

thanks for your time and enthusiasm

I shall progress further now!

[Philezra]

I have found Joseph Allen, Miner, 20, living with Anne Allen 20 (not in County) and Joseph Allen, 2, (not  in County) St Blazey 1841 Census

1851  CENSUS - Joseph Allen, Anne Allen etc..........Civil Parish St Winnow

need to find marriage of Joseph and Anne now......

[borneo]

Marriage:
Parish St Blazey
Husband: Joseph  ALLAN 
Wife: Anne  SEAMORE
Date 2nd Aug 1836

This is no guarantee that they are Elizabeth's parents, as Elizabeth isn't mentioned in the 1841 Census

Brian