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Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« on: Thursday 05 April 07 10:07 BST (UK) »
I am looking for any connections to a Charlotte Stewart,who according to the 1881 Census was born in Blairgowrie Perthshire in c 1866.In the 1881 Census she is shown as living in Rattray as the daughter of a Jane Mitchell,who is shown as born in Dundee in c 1833.I have looked in the 1871 Census,but I can find no corresponding Mother and Daughter.

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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 April 07 11:13 BST (UK) »
Hi William

This looks like Charlotte's birth entry:

CHARLOTTE STEWART  Birth:  26 FEB 1865  Rattray, Perth, Scotland
Parents: Father: DAVID ANDERSON STEWART   Mother: JANE MITCHELL

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Monica
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 April 07 11:19 BST (UK) »
Aside from the mistranscription, this looks like Jane and daughter Charlotte in 1871:


Jan Mitchell    34, Flax Millworker, b. Dundee
Charlotte Stuart 6, daughter, b. Rattray

Address: Dollas Bank, Rattray

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Monica
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 April 07 11:25 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for replies Monica,and I am a little confused by the Birth Entry.Should I consider Charlotte to be the illegitimate daughter of Jane Mitchell,or was Jane married to David Anderon Stewart?

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 April 07 11:35 BST (UK) »
I was just checking for marriages on Scotlands People and couldn't find any for a couple with these names. The original image for the birth certificate for Charlotte would confirm her status ie. whether she was illegitimate. If she was, the fact that her father's details are on the registration would confirm he accepted paternity (he would have had to be there for the registration for his name to be used). Also, the original image for the censuses should confirm what Jane's marital status was. What does it show in the 1881 entry you have seen? (the 1871 index that I have looked at does not include marital status sadly).

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Monica
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 April 07 12:12 BST (UK) »
Many thanks once again for your reply,and after looking again at the 1901 Census for Staffordshire England where Jane Mitchell is listed as Mother-In-Law of my relative Charles Stephens,who married Charlotte Stewart,it states Jane still to be single.From this I spotted a possible Entry for her in England as the daughter of an Alexander Mitchell born in Dundee in c 1806.I also have found a Jane Mitchell in Dundee in 1841,living with "Alexr" Mitchell(1811),Christian Mitchell(1816),and Mary Mitchell(1837).Jane is given as born in c 1832,and all are given as born in Angus.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 April 07 13:38 BST (UK) »
Hi William

These are the children showing in Dundee to an Alexander Mitchell and Christian Bell on IGI, all actual extract from the OPRs:

1. WILLIAM BELL MITCHELL   Birth: 08 MAY 1828/ Christening: 18 MAY 1828 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
2. DAVID TOSH MITCHELL  Birth: 15 AUG 1829/ Christening: 23 AUG 1829 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
3. JAMES MITCHELL Birth: 21 DEC 1834/ Christening: 04 JAN 1835 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
4. MARJORY MITCHELL Birth: 05 FEB 1837/ Christening: 20 FEB 1837 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
5. ALEXANDER MITCHELL Birth: 07 MAR 1839/ Christening: 24 MAR 1839 Dundee, Angus, Scotland

If you search under Christina (as variant to Christian) two more entries show up including a submitted entry for Jane:

1. Jane Mitchell Birth: 1829 Dundee, Angus, Scotland
1. ALEXANDER MITCHELL  Birth: 10 MAY 1833/ Christening: 26 MAY 1833 Dundee, Angus, Scotland - Likely he died and they called another son by this name b. 1839.


And the parents' marriage:

ALEXANDER MITCHELL  Marriages: Spouse: CHRISTIAN BELL    
Marriage:  04 APR 1826  Dundee, Angus, Scotland
   

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Monica  :)
   
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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 April 07 15:10 BST (UK) »
Many thanks once again Monica,and I also found the Marriage on the IGI.My problem though is that having since made contact with someone on Genes Reunited that has the David born 1829 in their Tree,is that going by the Census Entry I found in Suffolk England in 1891,Jane's father Alexander is still alive,and the contact has Alexander that married Christian Bell,having died in 1885.

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William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Stewart/Mitchell Bairgowrie.
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 April 07 15:49 BST (UK) »
William

There is a death in Dundee for an Alexander Mitchell age 78 in 1885. He died in the poorhouse and nothing was known about him - whether he was married or not/ names of parents etc.

Have you checked with your GR contact what their source is for their Alexander's death (he may not have died in Dundee).

You need to track through this Mitchell family (from IGI) through the censuses to establish whether they are Jane's family. The entry in Suffolk has a son Alexander age 40 so born c.1850  ???

Regards.

Monica
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