CARVER Hitchin

[janan]

Hi Chris
Don't know whether you ever saw my extra thoughts on Fred C and the double marriage to Kate Cracknell and Kate Dansey - added to my post of the 17 Jan on previous page. You had gone by the time I posted the modification.
Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi Jan,

Yes thanks, I saw it but the Herts marriage does not appear on freebmd, not had a chance to check ancestry yet.  Off overseaes again next week, so busy getting ready for the trip.

Will get on the case once we get back - I can see a research trip to Bedford area soon.

Chris

[bedfordshire boy]

Hi Jan

With the apparent death of Samuel pre 1777 does this knock a possible Wrestlingworth link on the head? Or is there still a chance?

Regards

David

[janan]

Hi Chris
Just checked the complete BMD images for you - there is only the St George Hanover Sq marriage Apr-may-jun qtr 1863 so back to Kate Cracknell/Dansey being one and the same I think. Assume the marriage sneaked onto the Allen Index because he was from Royston

Jan

[janan]

Hi David

I think I've pretty much ruled Samuel out as direct line but still wonder about some connection because of his trade. Possible my John born (most likely in Dunton) c 1758 was apprenticed to him as distant family?? Still working on it!

Jan

[Chris Carver]

Hi Jan,

Thanks for the check on BMD.

Samuel from Southill has only ever been a good guess and has always been a shadowy figure, so an early death would not rule him out.

I think I need to find a marriage for Thomas and John to see if the wive's names check and whether they mention a father's name.  Might also search for a will for Samuel.

Regards

Chris

[cazzanne]

Hi Jan,  I am not sure I can help you with your Carvers but you might be able to help me with mine.  I have got as far as James and Sophia Carver.   Sophia came from Southill Beds. 

Cazzanne

[janan]

Hi Cazanne

Although James and Sophia are not in my direct line they have sparked my interest, see


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,229051.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,248529.0.html

As you can see they are both somewhat shadowy figures  but hopefully the above will give you more info for further research.

There is also this very long confusing thread which grew from a look-up to a gathering of the Carver clan - there might be something you can pick out of it which is of use. Certainly James and Sophia do get a mention!

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,21720.0.html

Jan

I thought I recognized your name Cazanne - we met before on the Beds board, Scott's Bird family thread

[janan]

Just found these Chris

John Carver of Hitchin apprenticed to William Estwick, Weaver of Hitchin  father Samuel Carver Mar 25 1778

Thomas Carver of Hitchin apprenticed to James Alldred, Silk Weaver of Bethnal Green, Middlesex  father Samuel Carver Dec 29 1773

That Thomas was apprenticed in Bethnal Green looks good

Jan