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Offline bacardi

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can any one help please
« on: Thursday 03 May 07 15:38 BST (UK) »
looking for john thomas jones born abt 1884 st cleopas,toxteth park lancashire

parents owen and maria.if this right family owen was born in wales and had another
son called william born 1891 he was born either wales or rochdale

any help appreciated please

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 May 07 15:50 BST (UK) »
There is a family on the 91 living St Helens, Lancs.

Owen 28 a Coal Miner b Bethseda, Wales, with Mary 20 wife b Holyhead  and children
Wm 13, Robert 12, Elizabeth 9 JOHN THOMAS 5, Mary 2, David 1 month all born Bethesda Wales

Could this be them  ???
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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 May 07 15:56 BST (UK) »
that looks promising was that from 1901 census?

the 1 son william married in b,ham and have is marriage cert and only had his dad as owen a collier which atches with that census.

a few family members dont know much about the family either.other that owen was born wales and his wife was either mary or elizabeth and they had a son john aswell as william

can you send me original census please.i will p.m my email

many thanks for helping been on this for ages

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 May 07 16:13 BST (UK) »
No its the 1891, that why I was not sure as some of the childrens ages dont  fit in  ???
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 May 07 16:37 BST (UK) »
There is one other family of Owen & Maria Jones in the 1891 census but they do not have a son John Thomas.

1891 census
RG12/2936  folio 104  page 33
48, Bilson St. Toxteth Park, Lancs

Owen Jones  age 45  Tailor   b Anglesey
Maris  wife  age 45   b  Flintshire
Moses  son age 19  Tailor's ...?..   b  Liverpool
William  son age 17   Taveller   b   ditto
Margaret dau age 15  Dressmaker  b ditto
Jane  dau age 12    b  ditto
Lilly dau  age  4   b   ditto

This family were also in the 1901 census
Rg13/3440  folio 30  page 13

Owen Jones  age 56  Tailor  b  Anglesey
Maris  wife age 56   b  conway
Margaret  dau age 26  Dressmaker  b Liverpool
Mary  dau  age 14   b  ditto

1891 census
RG12/30255  folio  147  page 31
96  Junction Lane , Sutton,  Lancs

Owen Jones  age 28  Coal Miner  b Wales
Mary  wife  age 30   b Holyhead
William  son  age 13  b  Bethseda, Wales
Robert  son age 12   b  ditto
Elizabeth  dau  age 9  b  ditto
John Thomas  son  age 5   b  ditto
Margaret  dau age 2   b   ditto
David son  age 1 mth  b  ditto

could not find this family in the 1901

Hope this helps

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« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 May 07 11:39 BST (UK) »
john thomas jones born 21st oct 1884 bapt 4th feb 1885 st cleopaths toxteth park liverpool lancashire.parents owen jones and maria
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« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 May 07 17:20 BST (UK) »
many thanks alli,will send for the cert

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