WATKINS of Much Birch

[Emjaybee]

Info wanted on Thomas Watkins and wife Isabella. Much Birch, occ Slater living at Henry Street Ross on Wye, I think 1901 census (I forgot to date the print out - silly me LOL)

Isabella was born in West Indies.

We have a family mystery involving Trinidad and a plantation there. My link is through the Scrivens line.

[sem73]

Hi there

They were living at Henry Street in 1881....

Thomas WATKINS     Head     M     Male     70     Much Birch, Hereford, England     Slater & C     
 Isabella WATKINS     Wife     M     Female     65     West Indies          
 James WATKINS     Son     M     Male     28     Much Dewchurch, Hereford, England     Slater & C     
 Herbert WATKINS     Grandson     U     Male     11     Hereford, Hereford, England     Scholar     
 William SCUDEMORE     Boarder     M     Male     47     Upton Bishop, Hereford, England     Commission Agent     
 Annie SCUDEMORE     Boarder     M     Female     44     Gloucester, Gloucester, England          
 Agnes SCUDEMORE     Boarder     U     Female     11     Nailsworth, Gloucester, England     Scholar     
 Jacob HUGGINS     Boarder     M     Male     46     Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England     Coach Trimmer    

Herbert is listed as a cripple.

http://www.familysearch.org

Do you need any other census years?

Sarah

[Emjaybee]

Any census info appreciated. I have ordered CD's for Worcestershire census but they have not arrived yet.  I cant afford Hereford as well!

Soon I can offer help rather than keep asking.

Thank you for your help

Mike

[Spidermonkey]

Think this might be them in 1861:

Hereford Road, Much Dewchurch

Thomas WATKINS    H  Mar   52    Slater and plasterer    Bn Heref  Much Birch
Isabella WATKINS    W  Mar  50                                             East Indies
Albert WATKINS      son  Un   18   Slater and platerer           Heref  M. Birch
James WATKINS      son Un     8                                             Heref M. Dewchurch

[Spidermonkey]

and in 1841:

Birch Common, Much Birch

Thomas Watkins  30  Can't read profession  Bn This county
Isabella Watkins  28                                      Bn foreign parts
Thomas Watkins   5                                        Bn This county
Isabella Watkins   2                                       Bn This county

There are a couple of other Watkins families on the same page which I can give you if you'd like........

[Emjaybee]

Thank you

That starts a new search for me I see Isabella who came from Trinidad is listed in 1841 (foreign parts). So the link with Trinidad goes back much further in time.

This will be a great help as our family story is based on facts from 1940.

The name Scudamore (Commission Agent) is a well know county name in horse racing, another relative is said to have been well know in racing circles, some coincidence.
Mike

[Puffcat]

 In 1832 a Thomas Watkins married Isabella Gunter in Hereford.

[Emjaybee]

I shall have to start a trend for M-T as short form for many thanks. I need to thank so many Rc'ers for their help.

I have just received my census cd's from S and N so I can start doing a bit for myself.

I have dealt with S and N before, prompt service with tracked delivery.

[Spidermonkey]

Hope you don't mind, I had a bit more of a look at the Herefordshire censuses (censii?  )

1851 Census: Much Dewchurch, Kents Common
Thomas WATKINS  H  M  43  Slater & plaster/ master 1 lab       Heref Much Birch
Isabella WATKINS  W  M  42                                                       America
Thomas WATKINS  S  Un  15  Learning his fathers trade           Heref Much Birch
Isabella WATKINS  D  Un  12                                                      Heref Much Birch
Albert Williams WATKINS  S  U  9                                                Heref Much Birch
George ANDREWS Boarder U 16  Ag Lab                           Heref Little Dewchurch

1871 Census: Henry Street, Ross
Thomas WATKINS  H  M  56  Plasterer                            Heref Much Birch
Isabel WATKINS  W  M  55                                              India (British Subject)
James WATKINS  S  U  18  Plasterer                               Heref Much Dewchurch
Herbert WATKINS Gson U 2                                            Heref Hereford
Emma SIMMONDS Serv U 12  Gen Serv                           Heref Brampton Abbots

1891 Census: Henry Street, Ross
Thomas WATKINS  H  M  78  Plasterer                            Heref Much Birch
Isabella WATKINS  W  M  78                                           West Indies
James  WATKINS  S  Un  39  Plasterer                             Heref Much Dewchurch
Herbert WATKINS Gson Un 22  Clerk                              Heref Hereford
William BULLON  lodger  Un 27  Waggoner                     Heref Broadway

On neither the 1871 or 1891 census was Herbert listed as a cripple, or indeed having any ailments/conditions.

Hope that helps

Best wishes