Parents of Robert KITCHING

[Noreen Rose]

I have found more about Robert KITCHING and the Murder of the Policeman:

"In 1890 Robert Kitching. a gardener from Bedale, near York, was reprimanded by a PC Weedey for leaving his conveyance parked outside the Leeming Bar Hotel. Kitching told the officer to mind his own business and threatened to blow his brains out. Next morning, the officer was found shot dead and evidence led police to Kitching. In his defence, he claimed that the gun had gone off accidentally but he was convicted of murder. He was hanged by James Billington on the 30th December 1890 at the age of thirty four in York"

I still don't know who his parents were and if they were related to Benjamin KITCHEN my uncle, he is with on the 1881 census, would it be possble for someone to find Robert aged about 13/14 in 1871 please?  In 1881, I can't find any KITCHEN/KITCHING's born Leeming other than him.

Noreen Rose
York

[DS]

Hi

This looks interesting...

1861

Bedale RG9/3665 Folio 36 Page 5

Thos Kitching Head M 41 Keeps a Lic Lodging House Yorks Burneston
Jane do Wife M 37 Yorks Marrick ?
David do Son 10 Yorks Burneston
Elizth do Daur 9 Yorks Burneston
Mary Ann do Daur 7 Yorks Leeming
Robert do Son 5 Yorks Leeming
+ some Lodgers

Leeming

What do you think ?

DS

[DS]

1871

Bedale RG10/4866 Folio 59 Page 9

Thos Kitching Head M 51 Sawyer Burneston (Lame 50 years)
Jane do Wife M 46 Marrick nr Reeth
Robert do Son U 15 Sawyer Leeming
Dorothy do Mother Wid 84 Leeming

Exelby

Hope that helps.

DS

[Noreen Rose]

This is wonderful, thank you and thank you again.  It is early days for me with my KITCHEN family I researched the wrong one for years, as they were not on the 1901 census. 

I have recently received the first census, 1911 with my grandfather Anthony, with wife Emma and my father Charles aged 10.  They married in Enield, Middlesex 1892 and are not to be found anywhere on the 1901.   It was due to this list I discovered I could get 1911 earlier for a fee, if I had an address.  My grandmother, Emma died 3 weeks after the census was taken.

Thank you very much - I have not yet found whether Robert is a member of this family.

Noreen

[Kathc]

Hi Noreen

I was looking at your post about Robert, and found it very interesting.

You haven't come across Alice Martha Kitchen born 1883 or 1884 Fathers name Marmaduke Kitchen, in your research as she is my husbands Grandmother, and for the life of me I can not find her birth place, on her marriage cert it gives her fathers name as Marmaduke and the only Marmaduke Kitchen, I have found was born in Driffield.

I have had so much help off the kind people on this site, in fact I know DS, and with out his help I would not have found the relatives I have, but Alice Martha still alludes me.

Just thought I would ask if you don't ask you don't get, do you.

Regards Kathc

[Noreen Rose]

Kathc

Where are you searching for your KITCHENs?

It looks as though Marmaduke aged 20 bn Driffield, son of William KITCHEN bn Driffield, in 1881 might be the right one.  He seems to marry either Martha HURWORTH or Martha Eliza ROBINS June Qtr 1885, in Teesdale.  An Alice KITCHING is born in Guisboro' in 1886 - that is a slightly different age that you have of her.

If you get the marriage certificate it will give more information.  I have often found relatives are witnesses on them.  You have an unusual Christian name, which is better for research I find!!

Noreen

[Valda]

Marriages Jun 1885   
Kitchen  Marmaduke     Teesdale  10a 319
Robins  Martha Eliza     Teesdale  10a 319

1901 census RG13 4575 folio 85
House Scott? & Co Middlesbrough  Yorkshire   
Marmaduke Kitchen 40  Driffield, Yorkshire, Head  Married Horse Driver
Martha E Kitchen  38  Northampton Wife Married
Martha A Kitchen 13  Hury, Yorkshire,  Daughter 
Henrietta Kitchen 10  Hury, Yorkshire, Daughter 
Edith M Kitchen  8  Hury, Yorkshire,  Daughter
Marmaduke Kitchen 7 Hury, Yorkshire,  Son
Walter Kitchen  6  Hury, Yorkshire, Son
Harriet F Kitchen 4  Spenn, Durham, Daughter 
Thos Kitchen  3  Spenn, Durham,  Son 
John G E Kitchen 1  Mbro, Yorkshire, Son 

Hury = Hurry

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/YKS/NRY/Romaldkirk/index.html

Births Jun 1887   
Kitchen  Martha Ann    Teesdale  10a 264

Births Sep 1890 
Kitchen  Henrietta     Teesdale  10a 275

Births Jun 1892 
Kitchen  Edith Mary     Teesdale  10a 297   

Births Dec 1893 
Kitchen  Marmaduke     Teesdale  10a 269

Births Mar 1895 
Kitchen  Walter     Teesdale  10a 281

Regards

Valda

[Valda]

1891 census RG12 4082 folio 23
No 1 Hut Balders View Cotherstone  Yorkshire   
Robt Kitchin  30 Driffield, Yorkshire, Head Married Horse Keeper
Martha Kitchin 27 New Duston, Northamptonshire, Wife Married   
Ely Kitchin 6 Harlington, Durham,  Son 
Gertrude Kitchin  4 Cotherstone, Yorkshire,  Daughter
Martha A Kitchin 3? Cotherstone, Yorkshire,  Daughter 
Mary E Kitchin ? Cotherstone, Yorkshire,  Daughter
Henrietta Kitchin 10mths Cotherstone, Yorkshire, Daughter 
Wm Kitching  23 Riccall, Yorkshire,  Brother
plus 5 boarders and 1 servant

possible

Births Sep 1884
Robins  Eli     Darlington  10a 3

and

Births Mar 1886   
KITCHEN  Gertrude    Teesdale  10a 251

Births Jun 1889
Kitchen  Mary Ellen     Teesdale  10a 280
Deaths Dec 1891 
Kitching  Mary Ellen  2  Teesdale  10a 175

Regards

Valda

[Kathc]

Hi Valda

Thank you for taking the trouble to look this family up for me.

I do have the info from another Rootschat member who thinks that the Enumerator for the 1891 census got Marmaduke's name wrong, but how he got Robert and Marmaduke mixed up is beyond me

I have her marriage cert she is age 21 in 1905, on her death cert she was age 56 in 1940.
I have my father-in laws birth cert, and on all three her name is Alice Martha, it is possible that I have the wrong family all together as why was she married in West Derby?

All that I can think of is that she was a servant there, and met John Clews,and they got married, on there marriage cert they are living at the same address.

I have a possible family for John Clews as well, I think he is one of twins, born Wyrley, Staffordshire. but can not confirm that.

There is another mystery, now we know her name was Kitchen, but why give her children the name Kitchener, my father-in laws Name was William Douglas Kitchener Clews, and all of the other children's Cristian names end with the initial K, so why did she give them all the name Kitchener, but to confirm this I would have to get all there birth certs and there are ten of them.

Thank you again Valda Regards Kathc