The Untangling of Thomas' Stockley.

[Frances]

Hi Paul,

Only these in in Corfe Castle, just in case they may fit in somewhere

Thomas Stockley married Mary Morris 8 August 1831 Corfe Castle

These also from Corfe Castle

George Stockley (23) married Maria Keates (22) on 24 March 1847
George Stockley married Mary Crocker 28 February 1820

Sorry, all I have found at the moment

Frances

[Paul Caswell]

Thank for looking Frances. Perhaps something will turn up.

Paul

[sillgen]

In 1901 the Thomas married to Henrietta has half her family living with him from the look of it and their surname is Cooper so it may be that he married the daughter of his landlord in 1891!  If that is the case you can check the full index for any Stockley marriage and cross reference it against Cooper and see what comes up.  You already have a marriage to Annie Cooper so see if that is her second name or something.
Andrea

[Paul Caswell]

Good idea Andrea,

There's a Henrietta Selina Cooper b1873 registered in Wareham which isn't far from Swanage. Sadly no sign of an Annie.

Its so frustrating! There's normally all sorts of relatives around to help out with the unravelling but these three just don't seem to want to be identified.

Paul

[Paul Caswell]

Someone has sent me an IGI reference to a marriage of a Thomas Stockley to a Mary Ann Collins b1861 in Dover in 1880.

This looks like a hit on the Thomas that lived in Folkestone in 1881,91 and 1901 and links him to parents!! It lists parents and siblings for this Thomas that closely match a family headed by George Stockley b1822 and Ann Damon b1818.

see:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,232797

for that untangling.

Would this be considered a confirmed link?

I'm not suggesting that the IGI data is wrong, just that they may not have been aware of the two other alternatives.

Paul

[Paul Caswell]

And here's a link to the IGI data:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01oo/

Paul

[sillgen]

That IGI data looks very promising but it looks as if it is put on by an LDS church member therefore you need to treat it with some caution.  (Extracted records are those taken directly from the parish register and are generally more reliable - though every transcription has the potential for error and you should always look at the original.)   It gives just the year so they are guessing from the sound of it.
In this case you can look on the full marriage index on www.ancestry.co.uk and see if you can find the two names in the same quarter with the same reference number.  Have you confirmed births for any of the children they mention?    A certificate will give mother's maiden name.
You could also get the film of Dover parish register and search it  at your nearest LDS centre but it seems odd they were were not going to a more local church if they lived in Folkstone.
You would be accepting another person's research if you take this as proof so I am afraid it needs a bit more digging - still you are enjoying the hunt!
Andrea

[Paul Caswell]

Thanks Andrea,

I would be happy confirming the marriage from records.

The list of children does match one of the Thomas' I have. The list of siblings also matches one of these Thomas'. However, if LDS submitted data is not consistently confirmed by certificate, in this case a marriage cert containing both his wife and his parents then I cannot take this as a confirmed link. Am I right?

Also, if I do confirm that the LDS data is wrong, would this information be of value to the submitter?

The thrill is from the hunt, not the kill.

Paul

[Paul Caswell]

Another Stockley collector (Sue) has come up with some interesting discoveries:

1871 census Rg10 1014 for Folkstone in Kent has William 33, Ellen 35, Ellen 14 and Mary Ann 10 all Collins from Corfe Castle.

This supports the Collins marriage to the Thomas in Folkestone.

1st child for Thomas Stockley and Mary Ann was born in Folkstone area, I found a bmd William George Stockley b1882 J-A-S Elham Kent, 1891 shows Thomas and Mary Ann with William G Stockley, son aged 8.

This is a further pointer, the middle name of the first son is George, supporting the IGI grandfather's name.

So it is most likely that Annie Cooper is Mary Ann in Folkestone, married to Thomas son of George Stockley and Anne Damon. In line with the IGI data!

Anyone had any luck with the missing 1871 census?

Paul