Charles Henry Browne Stuck in Dead End!

[stanleymansion]

Hi 

Spent the morning checking various references and trying to verify the different sources and yes Monica i think you're hunch is definitely a go-er!

I've gathered a few more bits of info which would seem to confirm the Welsh family.

On Charles Henry's death cert 01.07.1917 Edinburgh, we have :-

Father George Browne  Mechanical Engineer
Mother Mary Browne (Maiden surname not given )  (deceased)
So we know Mary was around in 1901 and again in 1903 at Charles' wedding but gone by 1917. I have found a death:-

Mary Browne  born abt. 1857 died Q3 Sep 1908 age 51 Abergavenny.

George was still alive in 1917 and it ocurred to me that my uncle's middle name is George and I have a vague recollection of my Gran telling me that he was named after someone who was dying at the time he was born. Can't remember who she said though as I was very young at the time! So took a shot at that and lo and behold:-

George Browne age 78 died Q1 1935 Hereford. (He would be my uncle's great grandfather) Hmm.. I wonder; have emailed him to see if he knows who he was named after! Although the family lived in Abergavenny George as we know was born around the Hereford area. Perhaps after Mary's death he moved back to be closer to family or something??

Also to confirm Charles Henry' s whereabouts in 1891, I have traced the marriage of the aunt

Elizabeth Acteson (Atkinson?) to Frederick Powell Pontypool Q3 1870. That ties that end up!

It occurred to me that the details quoted for the Charles Henry in 1901 census  at Harrogate could maybe have been misquoted ?? Perhaps he is our man. Not sure on that, but it does seem a strange coincidence that Eliza Emily Holmes in the same small town of Harrogate marries someone of the same name 2 years later!

Do you think any certs may be of any value?  I'm fairly sure on all this now just a slight doubt with being unable to trace another Charles Henry in 1901.

You have been a real star Monica with all your hunting. Thanks so much

Lyn   

[MonicaL]

Hi Lyn

Clever you, you certainly have found the links with Wales and this Charles's parents year of deaths certainly help as they at least fit what you are seeing on Charles's marriage and death certs in respect of whether his parents were alive or deceased.

I'm not so sure about the Harrogate Charles. Age is out as is occupation and place of birth, too many wrongs for it simply to be a transcription error.

It's hard to know how to proceed next. What you really need is confirmation of your Charles's birth place and that will only really come from the 1911 census...and that's another 3 years wait  You have the target family now but not the final verification.

Fingers crossed your Uncle remembers something about who he was called after!

Regards.

Monica 

[stanleymansion]

Hi Monica

...and so the hunt goes on but with an extra person!

My uncle was named after GEORGE BROWNE who died age 21 on 10 Feb 1935 with TB, the day he was born. I have only a vague memory of someone mentioning this George so it came as a surprise to me! I have however managed to get a photo of The Browne Family, Charles Henry, Eliza Emily, Emily May, Violet Ethel and George!! So that was brilliant.

George, I believe must have been born in Edinburgh, as were his two sisters, Emily and Violet. Straightforward enough but as Scottish records only go up to 1906 I can't check his birth record. Unfortunately I can't locate a death record although it seems clear that he died in Q1 1935 in Blackpool, the registration district is Fylde. Perhaps mistranscribed??  

I'm still working on the Welsh ancestors so yep, fingers crossed!

Lyn