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Looking for William HAMS
« on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:25 BST (UK) »
I have been trying to locate the details of marriage for a William Hams and a Jane Baker but to no end. I know that William was born around 1826 and Jane Baker was born around 1821 and in the 1851 Census they were living in Melsksham, Wiltshire with their children William born 1845, Jeremiah born 1848 and a Sarah born 1850 but she died 1851. In 1856 they had another daughter named Sarah and the migrated to New South Wales, Australia before the 1861 Census. I have been searching all over the place for these people but to no avail. I know that my great grandfather was injured during WWI had spend his recovery time with family in Kent, so it possible that William Hams may he originated from Kent. Would be grateful for any information relating to these people. Thanks Chris

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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris  ;D

Welcome to RC

There is a marriage June Qtr 1844 Melksham for Jane Baker

Vol 8 p595 but unfortunately no one else on the same page

Do you have their arrival details in Aus, if they were assisted immigrants there should be some recorded details giving parents etc.

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Essex; Livermore, Barker  Norfolk; Wood, Lack, Spurgeon, Long Wiltshire; Ricketts, Sealey, Dew  Lincs; Drage  Cumberland; McNicol, Bowman  Lancashire; Brogden, Davis

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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:54 BST (UK) »
  Hi Chris.....WELCOME TO RC

   Cazay.....

  William Hams     Melksham  vol 13 page 595  q june 1844

  Are the volume numbers out?

                 Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:56 BST (UK) »
Snap, Tazzie

Just came across that myself...........
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Essex; Livermore, Barker  Norfolk; Wood, Lack, Spurgeon, Long Wiltshire; Ricketts, Sealey, Dew  Lincs; Drage  Cumberland; McNicol, Bowman  Lancashire; Brogden, Davis


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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 08 July 07 09:57 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Yes, that period in the Melksham RD is only 65% transcribed by FreeBMD.

The reciprocal entry can be found in the FULL GRO Index.

William HAMS Melksham Vol 13 Page 595

So the diffn in Vol # has meant that they werent paired up by FreeBMD

The original Index pages for bothe entries are clear - so a perfect example of GRO mistranscription ...

Vol 8 / Roman numerals VIII is correct ...

Registration County : Wiltshire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Abolished : 1.4.1936 (succeeded by Trowbridge and Devizes districts).
Sub-districts : Melksham; Trowbridge.
GRO volumes : VIII (1837-51); 5a (1852-1936).

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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 08 July 07 10:01 BST (UK) »



   Morning Newfy....

  Yep if you look at Melksham marriages 1840-1850  I have randomly checked the years and all those checked are vol 8 listings non show vol 13.
  The entry directley below William Hams starts vol 13 --- so the transcriber looks to have copied from the wrong entry.

                       Tazzie
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 July 07 10:05 BST (UK) »
Mornin Tazzie - yep, either that or cant count in Roman numerals - possibly took the V as an X ?  :D

Not sure when the typewritten ones were transcribed for the 1840s ....
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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #7 on: Monday 09 July 07 10:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Chris,

 As you are aware the 1851 census shows William and Jane Baker living at Little Worth, Whitley and they were born WIL Melksham.   I think that today this is or is close to Littleworth Lane, Whitley.   Whitley is a village a couple of miles north west of Melksham.

Next time I'm in Trowbridge I'll have a look at the parish records and see if they feature.   Should get back to you in a few days.

Cheers Dave
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Re: Looking for William HAMS
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 July 07 10:39 BST (UK) »
Might this be a possibility for William with parents?

1841
Bradford Wilts
Jeremiah Hams 45 ag lab
Leah 45
James 15
William 14
Sophia 7
Sarah 5
John 4
Susan 20
all b County
HO107 1166 19 14

then 1851
Folley lane Melksham
Leah Hams Head widow 59 Parish relief Corsham Wilts
John Hams son 14 Farm labourer Bradford Wilts
HO107 1840 172 26

then 1861
Shaw Hill bath FL?
Melksham
Leaha (transcribed Sarah) Hams head W 69 past labour Corsham Wilts
Sophia Hams daughter U 29 Melksham
Sarah daughter 4 Melksham
James Webb inmate 19 Labourer Colworth Bradford upon Avon
RG9 1294 8 10

marriage cert should confirm William's father

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