Whitfield / Crowson / Robinson / Newborough / Glinton COMPLETED

[dickiebould]

I am hoping someone can help me...
My 3 x great grandparents were Thomas and Ann Whitfield.
Thomas was born in 1836 in Newborough
Ann born 1838 in Glinton.
I have there daughter, (my 2 x great grandmother) Minnie's birth certificate (1871) which states that Ann, her mother, was formerly Crowson. I have searched through all the marriages registers for Crowsons between 1855 and 1871 but found no reference which links both Ann Crowson and Thomas Whitfield.
Thomas and Ann had a number of children - the earliest on record is John who is shown as 3 months on the 1861 census suggesting that Thomas and Ann married somewhere between 1858 and 1861.

There is a marriage record in the Newborough registers of a Thomas and Ann Robinson in 1860 but i don't know if this is the same Ann and she had married before?

Can anyone help with this?

Regards

Richard

[irret]

There is a marr ............... forget that one lost the plot time for bed. don't know how to delete.

[dickiebould]

Sorry - i may not have written out my posting very well.
It is Thomas who was the Whitfield by birth - not Ann.
It is her who i am puzzling over. I'm ideally wanting there marriage certificate so i can researcher further back with these two.

[mgeneas]

Two possibilities occur to me.
 
There is no father in the marriage record for Ann Robinson. This suggests that she was illegitimate. Perhaps her father was a Crowson and her mother a Robinson, or the other way round.
See if you can find the baptism of an Ann Crowson or Robinson.

Or the first Ann died and he married another Ann.
In a different parish or at the register office.

Perhaps getting the birth certificate of the first child would help.

Try looking in 1841 and 1851 census for Ann under both names.
Is the information in 1861, 1871 etc census consistent with being the same Ann

[dickiebould]

Thank you for your suggestions.

I had considered the second suggestion; however, i found this to be unlikely as the Ann is shown in the 1861, 81 and 91 censuses as being born in the same year and the same place so i think it is doubtful there was two marriages for Thomas.

Can you provide me with a full transcription of the Thomas and Ann marriage in 1860? Its making me wonder who witnessed the marriage and would be good to have the full transcription for my records.

If the marriage is the right one in 1860 your theory about her being illegitimate would sound plausible.

Do you think Ann's death certificate would help?

I can't find an appropriate Ann Crowson on the 1841 census but there is an Ann Robinson on the 1841 census in Glinton aged 3. She is living with Thomas and Rebecca Robinson who are 50 and 55 respectively. I know the ages were rounded up and down but they seem a lot older than her. Wonder if they are her grandparents? Any further suggestions?

[mgeneas]

Thomas WHITFIELD of this parish bachelor, age 24, labourer, father John deceased
Ann ROBINSON of this parish spinster, age 22 no father given
24th Jan 1860 at Newborough

This is from the Soke of Peterborough 1700-1860 marriage index.
The index does not include the witnesses.

It is unlikely that Ann's death certificate would help.

Seems likely that she is with her grandparents in 1841
Thomas ROBINSON married Rebecca GRIFFIN 26th Feb 1809
both of this parish, at Glinton

[dickiebould]

Thank you for that.
I would think it almost certain that Ann Robinson and Ann Crowson are the same person. Mystery why she uses both names - as you say it may refer to her father. Next step to find a birth certificate / baptism record for Ann.
Thanks for your help.

[seahall]

Hi dickiebould

I had a look at Glinton Parish Records today and found the following.

Pg 14 No 110 Novr 5 1837

Ann daughter of John Croxton from Alwalton Labourer and
Mary Robinson of Glinton (illegitimate)

Sandy

[seahall]

Hi again

On the marriage certificate

Pg 52 No 103 January 24th 1860 After Banns

Thomas Whitfield 24 yrs Bachelor Labourer Newborough John Whitfield (deceased) to
Ann Robinson 22 yrs Spinster Newborough (father's name blank)

Witnesses: John Crowson x his mark
and Elizabeth Lemmons.

Looks like the proof you need.

Sandy