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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #36 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 09:48 BST (UK) »
JAP, I checked last night on SP and there were no more entries showing for children to an Alexander P*tt*n* and Mary than you have found on IGI.

The following entries show in Aberdeen City with only father's name included on the entry and unfortunately every entry shows as a NO IMAGE on line:


1   20/12/1800   PITTENDREICH   -----   ALEXANDER PITTENDREICH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0100    No Image

2   14/01/1803   PITTENDREIGH   ALEXANDER   ALEXANDER PITTENDREIGH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   No Image   

3   14/01/1803   PITTENDREIGH   JOHN   ALEXANDER PITTENDREIGH
Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0100    No Image

4   06/04/1808   PITTENDRICH   MARGARET   ALEXANDER PITTENDRICH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0100    No Image

5   01/04/1810   PITTENDRICH   JEAN   ALEXANDER PITTENDRICH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0100    No Image

6   01/11/1812   PITTENDREACH   BARBARA    ALEXANDER PITTENDREACH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0110    No Image

7   20/03/1816   PITTENDRICH   ALEXANDER   ALEXANDER PITTENDRICH Aberdeen   ABERDEEN CITY/ABERDEEN   168/A00 0110    No Image


There is one more Alexander P. showing as having children in the same period and he is in Kinnethmont. He is the only older Alexader showing on the 1841,  still at Kinnethmont (and I think also the 1851 Census). He is also described as a squarewright (maker of furniture) and carpenter both occupations that would fit with an undertaker. However, he looks to be married to an Isobel.

Regards.

Monica

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #37 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 10:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica,

You are, as always, so very helpful!

Those searches you've done certainly don't give much hope.  Incidentally, it's interesting that you didn't come up with the 1808 Margaret with mention of mother Mary MILNE.  That Margaret in the IGI was bap 2 Apr 1808 at St Nicholas, Aberdeen, ABD; there were lots of other PITTENDRIGHs (and variants) in that batch (C111687) but none with those parents and only one other with pa Alexander but mother was Janet MASON.

I've now looked further and do find three of the ones you mention from SP (  :-[ ):
Margaret PITTENDRICH, bap 6 Apr 1808 (hmmmm!), St Nicholas, Pa Alexander (C119953)
Jean PITTENDRICH, bap 1 Apr 1810, St Nicholas, Pa Alexander (C119953)
Barbara PITTENDREACH, bap 1 Nov 1812, St Nicholas, Pa Alexander (C119953)
But not Alexander 1816 - perhaps I haven't tried hard enough.
I had gone right through batch C111687 but hadn't looked for other batches in Aberdeen ...
Now I've tried C119953 and come up with nothing else. 

As you've already done the searches, you might try P*t*nd* just in case it turns up anything else - given the variants I found earlier.

After finding the gravestone, I tried for a death for a Margaret (turned out to be PITTENDRIGH) in 1862 - refining the parameters on a free search (I'm too mean to spend my credits! - well, most of the time!) it turned out she was aged 52; trying other or mother's ms MILN* got nothing.  If PITTENDRIGH is her birth surname I guess this just might be (one of) the 1808 Margaret(s).  I also had a quick look for an Alexander in 1863 - there were 2 so I didn't explore further.

I would love to see the full MI for that gravestone I mentioned (isn't it funny how caught up one can become in other people's ancestors!).

I also went back and had a bit of a search in the 1841 FreeCEN (where ABD is complete).  Hard to know ...  I recall noticing an Alexander P, Wood Sawyer, and thinking that the occupation could match that of Undertaker (as you say).

I'm pinning my hopes on the MI!

JAP

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #38 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 12:13 BST (UK) »
No more birth or christening entries coming up with single t (searching as you suggested P*T*ND*) than we have already.

Monica
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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #39 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 14:02 BST (UK) »
Just a quick reply to JAP and Monica as I'm just off to work!
Your interest in my quest is wonderful and thank you both for the information about the Pitt's!!  I will have a really close look later.  That gravestone inscription looks promising!!!
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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 24 July 07 19:22 BST (UK) »
JAP,
What is an MI booklet?

The gravestone inscription has too many names that match to not be the right family - with Donald Whyte and Ann Pittendriegh (husband and wife) on together and Alexander P and Mary Milne.   Well done!   ;D

Latest update is that on Ann's death record, her mother's name looks like May or Mary MILNE!!!

With many thanks
Kate.

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 25 July 07 08:29 BST (UK) »
Hi again Kate,

If you go to the website I gave in the post where I mentioned the gravestone:
http://www.abdnet.co.uk/mi-index/
you will soon find out!

MI = Monumental/Memorial Inscriptions

As that site says:
"ANESFHS has published over 80 booklets of Memorial Inscriptions, containing MIs from more than 90 burial grounds in the Counties of Aberdeenshire, Banffshire, Kincardineshire and Moray, and holds about 100 sets of draft or unpublished MIs.

This Index covers all the published and around 30 of the unpublished MIs (a total of over over 120,000 indexed names)  ...  However, it does not contain the complete text of the Inscriptions - to see these, you must consult the published booklets, or (if you are a member of ANESFHS) request a lookup in the unpublished Kirkyards."


Elsewhere on the site, you can find the cost of the booklets - that for St Clement's Aberdeen appears to be 2 pounds 25p + postage.

Perhaps a helpful RootsChatter might have that booklet or have access to it ...

JAP

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 25 July 07 09:25 BST (UK) »
Hello,
Thanks.  Yes, I had just discovered that.  I've been on the Aberdeen MI Index site for the last 1/2 hour or so, it's fascinating. 

I am just going to see if a kind Rootschatter has the relevant booklet and could look up the information for me!!  Otherwise I will have to send for the booklet.

Kate.

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 25 July 07 10:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Kate,

No doubt you wouldn't mind buying the booklet but it would be great if you could get the answer more speedily!

Harking back to the names on the gravestone, if I were you I'd probably be following up on ScotlandsPeople :
The two names where the deaths occurred in the time of Statutory Registration:
*Margaret PITTENDRIGH in 1862
*Alexander PITTENDRIGH in 1863
And also:
*1861 and 1851 censuses (when both of the above were still alive).
 
As I mentioned earlier, a free search refining the parameters finds that Margaret PITTENDRIGH who died in 1862 was aged 52 - whether she's the one on the gravestone ...
I mentioned that there were two 1863 deaths for an Alexander PITTENDRIGH.  I've just refined the parameters further and find that one was aged 24, and the other was aged 79 - the older Alexander was in the district of St Nicholas.  So the older one might well be Ann's father Alexander!!  But of course, he might not ...

I've also gone back to the 1841 census on FreeCEN at:
http://www.freecen.org.uk
and find what might well be that Alexander in St Clements, Aberdeen (note the spelling of the name).  The age (in 1841 ages were rounded down to the nearest 5) fits well with the older Alexander's death in 1863, and the occupation is not unlikely.
PETTENDRIGH Alexander, 55, Wright
Do Helen, 40
Do Margt., 30
Do Jas., 4
And two boys with surname BAIN - Wm. 15 and Geo. 13 - and a female servant.
All except Helen born in Aberdeenshire; Helen born elsewhere in Scotland.

So I was thinking that Alexander might well have re-married after the death of Mary/May MILNE in 1834.

A search in the IGI on the FamilySearch site finds the following possibility:
Alexander PITTENDRIGH/Helen DUNCAN, marriage, 19 May 1836, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, ABD (ABD, incidentally is the Chapman Code abbreviation for Aberdeenshire - you can Google for Chapman Codes)
And the following:
James PITTENDRIGH bap 19 Dec 1837, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, ABD, parents Alexander PITTENDRIGH & Helen DUNCAN.

I also wondered whether the BAIN boys were children of Helen's from a previous marriage.  The following looks like a possibility:
William BAIN, bap 19 Apr 1826, St Nicholas, Aberdeen, ABD, parents Gilles BAIN & Helen DUNEN (sic)

Anyway, if the Alexander PITTENDRIGH who died in 1863 is the father of your Ann that would be great as, with his death certificate, you might well get back another generation.

Regards,

JAP

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Re: Pittendreigh/Pittendrigh/Pittendrich
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 25 July 07 10:57 BST (UK) »
JAP,

You have been busy! :)  Thankyou, lots to look into further.

If you think the Alexander who died in 1863 could have been Ann's father, would he have been buried with his first wife and children? 

Maybe the Alexander who died in 1842 was a baby, with a later baby being named Alexander (the Alexander who was died aged 24 in 1863). 

I note the earlier graves have women's maiden names which is very helpful, although on later gravestones all names in one family seem to be the same
(wife's the same as husband's)

Hopefully if someone can look at the MI Index for me, I will know more detail about that gravestone!!

Here's hoping...

KateW