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KNOWLES - Winscomb
« on: Monday 16 July 07 22:12 BST (UK) »
hi there

could anyone help please? 

Im looking for emily Knowles bn 1828 winscomb - on the 1871 - 1891 census she is shown as born winscomb (and her age is consistant) but I cant find anything on the IGI for this town.  I have no knowledge of the area, so could anyone point me in the right direction?

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Norfolk and Essex - Bowles, Ninham, Wiseman
Glos - Summerell, Williams

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Re: knowles - winscomb
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 July 07 23:16 BST (UK) »
Hi

There is a family on the 1841 which might be her, can you post the full reference for the 71 so I can see who the other family members are if she is with them
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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:03 BST (UK) »
 
Hi Patrish

I think that it must be.....

RG10/4980 Folio 71 Page 38

Surname Summerall

John and Emily married in 1852 in Bedminster. So in 1841 & 1851 she should be listed as Emily Knowles.

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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
 

Hello shazzi

Some Parish Register transcripts for Winscombe are shown here

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Winscombe/index.html

The baptism of an Emily Knowles in 1827 is included

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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 14:43 BST (UK) »
Hi DS

Thanks for posting that very helpful information   :), it appears Emily was illegitimate, mother Sarah down as a single women, so that confirms its not the family that I found on the 1841 .

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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hi shazzi-b

I think I could be onto something  :-\ Sarah is given as her mother,I cound not see a marriage for her on those Wincombe marrage records.

This is the family that I found in 1841 living in Yatton, which is quite close to Winscomb.

107/968/12/14/31/3

James Knowles 62 Cordwainer
Phebe 63
Edward 26 Plasterer
Phebe 21
EMILY 14
Charles 10
Mary 5

As no relationships are given, looking at the ages it would make Phebe about 49 when she had Emily and 58 for Mary, I think that pushing things, so maybe as Sarah was unmarried perhaps these are Emily grandparents  :-\

I notice from the 71 census that the eldest child is a son James Knowles Summerall, possibly named after her grandfather.
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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 19:04 BST (UK) »
thanks everyone for all the hard work.  So..

who are charles and mary's parents?  Like Emily, they are slightly too young to be Phebe's children.  i cant find any of them in 1851.  Emily did marry into the Summerells in 1852, so I can track her from then.

any ideas?

thanks

Sharon
Northumberland - Addison, Bowles, Kirkup, Lowes, Mason, Patterson, Richley, Venus, Wardle, Williams
Durham - Pears, Robertson, Richley, richelieu, Summerell
Norfolk and Essex - Bowles, Ninham, Wiseman
Glos - Summerell, Williams

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Re: KNOWLES - Winscomb
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 20:31 BST (UK) »
I could not find any of the Knowle's in 1851 its probably safe to assume that James and Pheobe are deceased but where are the rest  ???
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley