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1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« on: Friday 20 July 07 12:19 BST (UK) »
I have an 1804 marriage No 701 from Holy Trinity in Kendal
Curate's name is Thomas Briggs.
I am trying to find out if he was from one of the surrounding chapels.
The vicar of Kendal at this time was Henry Robinson.
Any suggestions please ?
Sue
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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 20 July 07 18:45 BST (UK) »
SUe
a2a has a reference from 30 August 1800 to Thomas Briggs of Kirkby in Kendal clerk and Henry Robinson of Kirkland

There are other references to Thomas Briggs coroner and rope maker.
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Deborah


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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 20 July 07 19:29 BST (UK) »
Thanks Deborah
I hadn't thought of looking on A2A.Will check it out. I've been looking at local churches/chapels without success.
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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:09 BST (UK) »
It is possible that an early edition of Crockfords Clerical Directory will have details of him.  He does not appear in my copy from 1865 but if you can find an earlier one in a library somewhere you may find him.   It started in 1858 so he may have been still alive.  Local directories always listed the clergy too so that is another possibility.
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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 August 07 17:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks Andrea.
It'll have to wait for a trip to England.
There is also this site for anybody searching for CE clergymen.(He wasn't listed) http://eagle.cch.kcl.ac.uk:8080/cce/index.html

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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 May 24 20:22 BST (UK) »
Hello - it was a long time ago I know but this has just popped up as I search for another Thomas Briggs.  "Your" Thomas Briggs was born around 1762, married Esther Threlfall at Kendal on 31/1/1801 and was curate in Kendal until he became vicar of Natland (about 2 miles South of Kendal) in 1804.  He continued to live in the Kirkland district of Kendal and was still vicar of Natland when he died in 1815 aged 53.  There's a memorial to him pictured on Find a Grave - just says "Revd T Briggs 1815".  Esther lived until 11/2/1842 when she died aged 69 so born 1773.

As far as I know the Briggs twine spinners at Milnthorp / Heversham were a different family and eventually grew rich as Thomas Briggs (Manchester) and moved away.  Several early generations of them also appear on two graves in Heversham on Find a Grave.

Meanwhile "my" Briggs were Thomas > James > Thomas > Thomas ..... with Thomas 1 perhaps born in Slaidburn in 1734, James a joiner in Milnthorp, Thomas 2 a stone mason who moved to Macclesfield and worked on the canal and the Longendale reservoirs, then Thomas 3 became a railway "navvy" and moved around a lot leaving behind a son who married a local girl in Cheshire and stayed put eventually passing the Briggs name to my Mum's father John Briggs Lloyd.  The family always said "the Briggs came with the railway " and it turned out to be true.

Hope the bit about the Rev Thomas Briggs is useful and if you find a spare Thomas Briggs who died near Kendal around 1810 - 1820 who wasn't a rich twine spinner please let me know.

Best wishes, Chris

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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 May 24 22:27 BST (UK) »
He appears in CCED: https://theclergydatabase.org.uk/jsp/search/index.jsp if you just search for the name there are only two possibilities, try the second one
Simons Barrett Jaffray Waugh Langdale Heugh Meade Garnsey Evans Vazie Mountcure Glascodine Parish Peard Smart Dobbie Sinclair....
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Re: 1804 Does anyone know this curate?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 May 24 11:03 BST (UK) »
Thank you Graham - found him.  And found records of him officiating at 8 weddings in the two years he was at Stalmine 1786 - 88 so found images of his signature and writing via Ancestry.  Looks as if he was then at Kendal until 1804 when he became perpetual curate of Natland though CCED doesn't show the Kendal period.  Also found his baptism in the transcipt of the Heversham registers - son of Edmund of Fowlshaw House”, baptised at Heversham on 7 Mar 1762. The next entry in the transcipts suggests possibly Thomas had a sister Isabel daughter of “Edward” of “High Foulshaw House” bap 11/2/1764.  It appears that thomas and Esther had no children.
As like Thomas I have an MA from St John's Cambridge, I'll email the college office and see what record they have of him  :)
Best wishes, Chris