Henry MOSS Calne Wiltshire

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Can anyone help me please i am trying to get back as far as i can with my husbands side of the family so far i have got back to G  Grandparents.  In the 1901 Census for Calne Wiltshire i have them as
Henry Moss age 39 Boot, shoe maker
Agness Moss 40
Violet Moss 11
Edward Arthur 7  (Grandfather)
Albert victor 3
living in either Mill or Mile Street.
Can anyone help me go back further with the names of either parents of Henry or maiden name and parent of Agnes and family I want to try and get back as far as possible as we think that the family either originate from Scotland or Wales but maybe neither.  We think that there could be a surname King amongst this part of the family maybe Agnes maiden name as my father in law jokes he is the Kings G G Grandson lol. Any help in helping me solve this would be very much appreciated or could someone please tell me how i go about finding out myself i am very new to this and am using credits up like know ones business and going down the wrong tracks.
many thanks
Dee

[krisesjoint]

Hi Dee,

1901 Census

RG13/1922 Folio 57 Page 13
Mile Eliu
Calne

MOSS Henry H Head 39 Mar b Calne Boot and Shoe maker
MOSS Agnes Wife 40 b Calne
MOSS Violet Lily Dau 11 b Calne
MOSS Edward Arthur Son 7 b Calne
MOSS Albert Victor Son 3 b Calne

1891 Census

RG12/1602 Folio 121 Page 6
16 Cleve
Seend

MOSS Henry H Head 29 Mar b Collingborne Kingston Boot and Shoe Maker
MOSS Agnes Wife 30 Mar b Collingbourne Kingston
MOSS Violet L Dau 1 b Seend

Violet Lily MOSS b Melksham Dec 1/4 1889 5a 120

Looks like possible marriage

Henry Herbert MOSS = Agnes MOSS Dec 1/4 1888 Pewsey 5a 358

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

You can search 1881 for free at LDS or Ancestry

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp

You will also find the IGI (international Genealogy Index) is free on the above site

1881 finds Henry with his family. His parents both appear to be Wiltshire Born.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01s6/

I don't see Agnes Moss. She may have been previously married, or have been living with Henry and already using the name so a fathers name is needed here. You can order the cert for £7 from

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

Henry Herbert MOSS b Dec 1/4 1861 Persey 5a 130

and this looks like parents marriage

Thomas MOSS = Mary BROOKS Sep 1/4 1855 Pewsey 5a 267

a good site for finding BMDs although not complete is

http://www.freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

Have a good look around the beginners Links and the resources attached to each county, and feel free to make as many requests as you like. So many RootsChatters out there are keen to help............Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Aha here is Agnes in 1861

RG9/1309 Folio 63 Page 10
Turnpike Road
Collingbourne Kingston

MOSS Jeremiah Head 44 Mar b Collingbourne Stone Mason
MOSS Emma Wife 42 Mar b Collingbourne
MOSS Henry G Son 17 Unm b Collingbourne Ag Lab
MOSS Albert Son 12 b Collingbourne Ploughboy
MOSS William Son 9 b Collingbourne Scholar
MOSS Sarah H Dau 4 b Collingbourne Scholar
MOSS Julia Dau 2 b Collingbourne
MOSS Agnes Dau 6 Months b Collingbourne

Agnes MOSS born Dec 1/4 1860 Pewsey 5a 141

Jeremiah MOSS = Emma COOK Dec 1/4 1842 Pewsey 8 653

Looks like the Cook rather than the King Dee 

Thomas and Mary are 3 houses away complete with his mother 

MOSS Thomas Head 32 Mar b Collingbourne Shoe Maker
MOSS Mary Wife 34 Mar b Sutton Benger
MOSS Charles Son 4 b Collingbourne
MOSS Edward J Son 2 b Collingbourne
MOSS Mary Mother 72 Widow b Collingbourne

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

OK so They were first Cousins (Quite Common)

HO107/1180/8 Folio 27 Page 19
Southton
Collingbourne Kingston

MOSS William 50 Y (Yes born in County) Shoe Maker
MOSS Mary 50 Y
MOSS James 23 Y Shoe Maker
MOSS Jeremiah 20 Y Shoe Maker
MOSS Thomas 15 Y Shoe Maker
MOSS George 10 Y

William MOSS = Mary EYELS 28 Nov 1810 Collingbourne Kingston

Jeremiah MOSS baptised 3 May 1818 Collingbourne Kingston Parents William and Mary
Thomas MOSS baptised 25 May 1828 Collingbourne Kingston Parents William and Mary
+ lots more

Thomas MOSS = Mary BROOKS 28 Jul 1855 Collingbourne Kingston

Henry Herbert MOSS baptised 25 Dec 1861 Collingbourne Kingston Parents Thomas and Mary + siblings

Jeremiah MOSS = Emma COOK 3 Nov 1841 Collingbourne Kingston

Agnes does not appear to be listed on the IGI but siblings are

Looks like a long line from Collingbourne Kingston.

Cheers Kris 

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Wow thats great Kris many thanks will keep you informed
Dee

[karen23810]

Hi, if you don,t mind me asking what is your husbands name?
I only ask as i think we have the same family history.
My dad was given a family tree done some time ago and list all the same people as you are looking for.

Looking at the tree Agnes (b1861) had the parents of Jeremiah and Emma and henry(b1861) had the parents of thomas and Mary (thomas married again in 1894 to Ann silversmith) but I'm sure Agnes and henry both share the same grandparents William and Mary(eyeless).
If you need any more info let me know and i will see if i can help.

Karen

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Hi Karen
Moderator Comment: Personal Information removed for security reasons. Please pass on personal information via PM Thank You and if it turns out we have the same family tree that would be great.  As i only decided to go down my husbands side of the family just over a week ago as i was putting my tree together obviously Alans family came into it.  His dad was quiet interested with the information i had managed to find out as i dont think he knows much about his family roots he is now 75 and didnt seem to be that interested when i told him what i was doing but if we are related it would be great to be able to show him that he does still have some living relatives along the line because as far as he knows he is the only one, he often says he is the Kings great great grandson, and we can only assume that there was somewhere along the line a surname King but have yet to uncover it and he wont give us any clues but knowing him he is winding us up as he is a good one at sending us up lol.  I hope this information is of some help to you and if you want to know more about us or want to share any of your family history please do keep in contact.  You are the first person to actually contact me asking if we have connections from both sides of our families and would be good to have something to show for it, if that makes sense.
Best wishes
Dee

[karen23810]

Hi Dee,
I seem to be having trouble finding them on the tree i have, but it was done a long time ago so many people might have been missed from it. I quite sure your husband and me are from the same side of the tree because my great-great grandfather was Charles Frederick moss (b1857) he was henry moss's brother.
Charles Frederick moss (m Emily Scarlett in 1879) had two children Albert Edward (my great grandfather) and Edith Emily , Albert had 4 children Reginald, Eva, Hubert and Leslie, who was my grandfather.

If your husband's father could name any brother or sisters or parents i might be abel to find them, i think my tree is a bit wrong in places as henry's daughter violet Lilly is the daughter of a Sarah Hannah, Agnes's sister (hope that makes sense !) and i cant find her brother either.

karen