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Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« on: Thursday 02 August 07 14:09 BST (UK) »
Hello all Rootschatters.......     Hoping to find someone out there that can help me re Military Records..?
My 4x Gt Grandfathers death certificate (1851 aged 63 years) has turned up a surprise......as well as his occupation (House Painter) he is given as " Out Pensioner of Chelsea Hospital from the 31st Regiment of Foot "
He died in Stockport,Cheshire...appears on the 1841 census for that County..so must have left the Army well before then..
Does anyone know where i can find records for the Chelsea Hospital or the 31st Regiment of Foot ?

Here's hoping !
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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 August 07 14:36 BST (UK) »
Hi LancsLass

My gg grandfather was also an out patient of Chelsea. All that means is that he received a pension as a result of his being a soldier. Chelsea Hospital will, alas, have no records.  :-\

The good news is that you can find his Army records at Kew.  :) The staff there will be very helpful.  ;D

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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 August 07 14:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,

My Gt Grand was an Out-Pensioner too. From what I gather, it meant that he received an army pension but wasn't an invalid, so he live outside the Chelsea Hospital with his family and had a job.

I think the Pension Pay records are kept at Kew.

Try posting on the Armed Forces board. They will know a lot more.

Cheers,
jc

OOOPs! I see you've done that allready. :)
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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 August 07 14:38 BST (UK) »
Meles & JC...Many thanks, only got the certificate today..came as a complete surprise !  Have no idea when he left the Army..and what is the 31st Regiment of Foot ?????
LL.
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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 August 07 16:54 BST (UK) »
31st (Huntingdonshire) Regiment of Foot

See http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/031-702.htm


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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 August 07 13:28 BST (UK) »
I have the discharge documents for one of my ancestors.

Try here http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search/quick_search.aspx

Search for the persons name.  If it is a common name you may get a lot but worth looking.  I'm not sure how to search for just discharge documents.

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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 August 07 22:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Sylviaann.....Thanks for that..have had a look this evening. You say you have discharge documents for one of yours...Can i ask did you get them from Kew and did you have to go personally to get the. (Not able at this time to get there myself and wondering how to manage it) ?
Did you use a researcher ?
Hope i am not being too nosey !!
Regards..
LL
Hi Stan...Thank you for the info..that led me on to more than i expected..
LL.
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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 04 August 07 22:23 BST (UK) »
I got them from the National archives, the site I gave you

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Norfolk: Gooch, Loveday, Lake, Betts
Suffolk: Gooch, Crosby, Turner
Hampshire: Laws, Burrows
Kent: Beer
Jersey: Barette, de Gruchy
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Re: Out Pensioner, Chelsea Hospital....
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 04 August 07 22:26 BST (UK) »
Hhhmm.....Must have missed something there then ! I got the record summary....thought that they might have further details which would give more info....
Thanks again..
LL.
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Eastwood, Eckersley, Newton,Partington,Forth, Smethurst,Stalker,Simpson,Oldham,Lancashire Lancashire.
Manning,Dobson,Bramwell,Sims/Syms,Cheshire,Staffordshire,Lancashire,Devon,Guernsey,Channel Islands.
Mallalieu/Mellodew. Ashton-u-Lyne/Saddleworth.