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Medal Card
« on: Saturday 04 August 07 17:48 BST (UK) »
I downloaded my granddad's medal card a few years ago but didn't get much response when asking for info on another site so gave up.  On my mother's b cert he is said to be a Private, No. 3222, 2nd 5th Lincolns.  Does that mean he was in the 2nd Battalion of the 5th Regiment?  I am confused because on a list of Army hierarchy it states Battalion and Regiment are the same level.  Help please.

Jennie
DUNDERDALE - Corringham/Brigg
APPLETON - Grimsby/Scunthorpe
CREDLAND - Messingham/Scunthorpe
JARNELL - Coningsby/Gainsborough
GIBSON - Bonby
COOK - Bonby
WELTON/WHELPTON - Melton Ross/Barnetby
TUPLIN(G) - Irby/Swallow
ALL LINCOLNSHIRE

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 04 August 07 20:52 BST (UK) »
Hi Jennie

Presumably you are referring to the Great War period.  Regular battalions normally consisted of a 1st and 2nd battalion, with a 3rd Reserve battalion, usually at a home depot.

There were also Territorial battalions affiliated to their Regular regiments, these Territorials served at home.  On the outbreak of war and the subsequent actions, it became quite clear that the Territorial battalions in the field would need trained reinforcements. Therefore these battalions began to recruit men as reserves for the Territorial battalions in the field.

A example might be, (but there were variances by regiments.) The 1/5 would be the battalion in the field, then the 2/5 would be the first to reinforce the 1/5: Then  the 3/5 would be the youngest/latest  recruits to go through training.


Thus 2/5th Battalion Territorial Battalion:
Formed at Grimsby in February 1915. July 1915 : attached to 177th Brigade, 59th Division. 8 May 1918 : reduced to cadre. 29 May 1918 : transferred to 21st Brigade, 30th Division. 28 June 1918 : transferred to 66th Division. 31 July 1918 : absorbed by 1/5th Bn.
see link here:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01t7/

Not easy to follow is it, as every regiment seemed to have its own idea on numbering battalions.  Generally speaking, it was done on counties and localities where the men's regiments were raised.


 
Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 04 August 07 21:22 BST (UK) »
Thanks atom 12

I presume my granddad would have served in other battalions/regiments because on his medal card he has two different numbers from the one on my mum's birth cert.  Before anyone suggests I have the wrong medal card - everyone with his/my surname in Lincolnshire is related and his two given names are unique in the family.  Also, when I downloaded his medal card I had the bonus of getting his brother's.

There wasn't much info on the card, not even a date of entry.  There were some numbers on the 'Victory' box.  Where it says 'Roll' there is the number: 7/105 B20 and the Page number is 2834.  I would be very grateful if anyone could tell me what this means please?

Jennie
DUNDERDALE - Corringham/Brigg
APPLETON - Grimsby/Scunthorpe
CREDLAND - Messingham/Scunthorpe
JARNELL - Coningsby/Gainsborough
GIBSON - Bonby
COOK - Bonby
WELTON/WHELPTON - Melton Ross/Barnetby
TUPLIN(G) - Irby/Swallow
ALL LINCOLNSHIRE

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 04 August 07 23:18 BST (UK) »
Jennie

The Roll and Page number are the reference to where you will find his entry in the manuals at the National Archives.  You have to visit in person to view these.



Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:


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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 August 07 11:23 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Atom 12

When you say his entry in the manuals what exactly is the information given? I am trying to find out whereabouts he served in WW1 and if he was involved in any major battles.

Jennie
DUNDERDALE - Corringham/Brigg
APPLETON - Grimsby/Scunthorpe
CREDLAND - Messingham/Scunthorpe
JARNELL - Coningsby/Gainsborough
GIBSON - Bonby
COOK - Bonby
WELTON/WHELPTON - Melton Ross/Barnetby
TUPLIN(G) - Irby/Swallow
ALL LINCOLNSHIRE

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 August 07 13:52 BST (UK) »
If you now he served in the 5th Battalion, then you will need to look for info on this battalion. Try Google or the great war forum.

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 August 07 13:58 BST (UK) »
 :) Agree with Monstar

You have to do some digging yourself on the 5th Lincolns.
Reid: Nicol: Peterhead and Aberdeen
McDonald: Greig: Milne: Aberdeenshire
Moreland: Lanarkshire, Whitehaven in Cumbria and Ireland
Cunningham: Lanarkshire, Cumbria and Ireland
Halliday: Falkirk, Stirlingshire and Ireland
Redpath: Stirlingshire and Banbridge
McKay:

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Re: Medal Card
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 August 07 14:00 BST (UK) »
Themonsstar

Thanks for the hint to Great War Forum, just had a quick look and it seem promising, will investigate further.

Jennie
DUNDERDALE - Corringham/Brigg
APPLETON - Grimsby/Scunthorpe
CREDLAND - Messingham/Scunthorpe
JARNELL - Coningsby/Gainsborough
GIBSON - Bonby
COOK - Bonby
WELTON/WHELPTON - Melton Ross/Barnetby
TUPLIN(G) - Irby/Swallow
ALL LINCOLNSHIRE