John Moran -Mayo to Doncaster

[Davronab]

This is a very long shot  but someone might possibly have some bright ideas for me

My gt gt grandfather John Moran b 1847ish came to Doncaster from Mayo Ireland in the 1860's.With his wife they had four children and three were named after grandparents that I know of.
 I know  that his father was also called John Moran and from Mayo.
By deduction I assume John Mayo Senior had a wife called Florence Anne
How do I find any more information? I have checked all English census and baptism records that I can find but no joy.
Help please!

Cheers me dears, V.

[acorngen]

What in particular are you wanting to find out?  Are you trying to trace forwards?  If not then you need to be looking at County Mayo.  Give us some idea what it is your looking for and I am sure one of us could help especially as I am in Doncaster and spend more time than I care to imagine at the local archives

Rob

[aghadowey]

My gt gt grandfather John Moran b 1847ish came to Doncaster from Mayo Ireland in the 1860's.With his wife they had four children and three were named after grandparents that I know of.
 I know  that his father was also called John Moran and from Mayo.
By deduction I assume John Mayo Senior had a wife called Florence Anne
How do I find any more information? I have checked all English census and baptism records that I can find but no joy.

If there was a child called Florence Anne don't assume one of the grandmothers was also called Florence Anne. Florence is not a common Irish Christian name (although my great-aunt was Florence Kelly but born 1890s) in early 1800s. Grandmother might have been called Anne/Nancy/Agnes (used interhangeably in Ireland) and they used it as a middle name.

[Davronab]

Well , youngest daughter Catherine (mas's ma Catherine)
Youngest son John (da's da John)
Oldest son James (ma's da James)
Oldest daughter Florence Annie ( da's ma  Florence Anne?).

I now that there are Irish naming conventions that some families follow.

If John Moran elder married an Anne in Mayo I think my task is impossible - commonest names in the world.
Ah well.
Thanks V

[aghadowey]

First of all, Irish naming pattern is: 1st son after father's father, 2nd son after mother's father, 3rd son after father then on to great-grandfathers, uncles, etc. For girls it is: 1st mother's mother, 2nd father's mother, 3rd mother...
Another thing which can throw off the naming pattern is naming next child after a relative who's just died. Still think Florence is unlikely for woman born early 1800s.

[acorngen]

Naming paterns are not worth following anyway the instances of them being used are very slim

Rob

[aghadowey]

Certain families seemed to stick with them for generations and other families didn't bother. I was just clarifying something veronica mentioned.

[acorngen]

Yes I know I was just adding my own view on them.  Of course my own research and those I have done research for are only a small fish of info in a large pond so I may be totally wrong

Rob

[Davronab]

Thanks anyway chums - that was my last slim thread.
My grandad was born in 1878 and his older sister Florence Annie in 1876. Grandad died 1950 and all his siblings evaporated around 1901 , so no-one to ask.
Just a crying shame the Irish censuses didn't survive.

Ta to all V