Help with marriage and death please

[slewis]

Hello all
  John S Povah was born abt 1824 in England he moved to Canada,  I am not sure when, but I have a marriage for him to Catherine Scott in Holton, Onterio, 11 Dec 1858.
Then I find him again on the 1881 Winnypeg, Selkirk, Manitoba census, but his wife is younger then he and named Mary J  born abt 1852 Ireland, with 5 children first born in abt 1871 Onterio.
 If this is his 2nd wife can any one help me find a marriage for John and Mary, and may be a death for Catherine, as  I have hit a brick wall, and really would appreciate any help you can give me.
                    Regards Sue

[alicemaud]

I can't find a death for Catherine.
With such a large age difference, maybe John ran off with the younger Mary J?

Anyway, I found a birth for the youngest child born in Ontario, Eva.

Misspelled PORAH on the index.

Birth: Eva Lizetta
Dec 4 1876
Father: John S. Povah
Mother: Mary Jane Galvin.
Father's prof: Joiner
Residence: Marham Village.

Will look for more.

[alicemaud]

Another one spelled PORAH.

3rd June 1872
John Francis
Father: John Sumpter Povah
Mother: Mary Jane Galvin
Father's Prof: Carpenter
Residence: Hamilton

[slewis]

Hi Alicemaud
        Thankyou so much for this information, I didn't have the middle names or Mary maiden name, its all a great help.
        Thanks again regards
                               Sue 

[J.J.]

Here is Mary Jane & daughter..on the 1901...will help for date of birth...June 25th 1852, Ireland immigrated just says married..
M.E. daughter says born Manitoba...(But it is Mary, who was born Ontario)...John elsewhere...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=66393&highlight=41

[J.J.]

Hi, Sue...I see, from the location in B.C. and name now...that we found some of this before for you...but I'll post anyway...so everyone can see he is distant from her in 1901...
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/View.jsp?id=59893&highlight=20

[Janice M]

Okay, I am really excited.   

John Sumpter Povah
Patent Office
(Hinged Chair)
Filed: May 29th, 1900

http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/PageView/8_04863_327/0050?id=7b6a23d8993e1b64

I also put the site to search on another posting for you.

Early Canadiana Online
http://www.canadiana.org/ECO/mtq


Janice

Other site:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,213995.msg1420010.html#msg1420010

[slewis]

Hi JJ and Janice
 First can I thank you both for your help.
Yes JJ you have help me a lot with this one, its still making me crazy, I think that their were 2 John Povah in Canada at the same time.
I don't think Emma Jane father John, ( with wife Jane ) was John Sumpter Povah.
John Sumpter Povah I believe was 97 when he died, in B.C  I think he married Catherine Scott, in 1858, I don't know if she died, or if he walked out on her.

But I am sure it is him living with Mary Jane in 1881, and if it is him, on the 1901 census for B.C. did he walk out on Mary Jane too, or just working away?

The fact he may have  invented a Hinged Chair, is good as we all ready have 2 inventors in the family, so he could be one of mine.
I will keep looking and if I ever sort it all out I will let you all know
              Thanks again for all your time and help
                     Regards Sue 

[J.J.]

I missed your reply, Sue...my first email gets marked as read for some reason...
Yes, it does seem to be a different John for your Emma, but the same
John S. in all the documents if anyone ever wants to search him out it is all there...
Now where is your John? and did he ever come to Canada?
or did just Emma Jane venture over here ...do you have proof she was born here, as census data is often way off base... ( & Where IS she in 1881? ) ??     J.J.