Deddington PR / Oxford Marriage lookup please

[GILLY-UK]

Could anybody check the Deddington registers for me please.
I am looking for :
    Ralph Chilingworth b. 1800 Deddington- father William Chillingworth - mother Mary ?
    listed in the IGI as father Edward.

also 
    William Chillingworth b.1771 any information about his birth/marriage/children
    There is a William Chillingworth listed in IGI as married 1791 to Mary South but
    unsure  wether this is the correct one, as Mary is stated as b.1781 in the 1841
    census

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks
 Gill

[toby]

Found Ralph and family living in West Derby in 1861 here are the details.

Ralph Chillingworth born abt 1801 Deddington 60   plasterer
Ann 58 born Liverpool
Elizabeth born Birmingham
Joseph born Liverpool.

Hope this helps a little.
Regards.

[Pennie]

Hi Gill ...

I had a look on the OFHS's Oxfordshire Marriage Index (1538-1837) for Ralph and William's marriages.

No record of anything for a Ralph CHILLINGWORTH, and the only entry for a William CHILLINGWORTH+Mary was the one that you had already found (Mary SOUTH on 07 JAN 1791).

Although Mary is recorded as born 1781 in the 1841 census (ie. aged 60), don't forget that ages were rounded down to the nearest 5 years so she could be any age up to 64 on the census, ie. born c1777 and c14 years when married (not impossible by any means!).

Hope this is of help.

Pennie

[GILLY-UK]

Thanks Penny,
I didnt know that they rounded the ages down in the census, that does make Mary South a little more believable doesnt it. Is there any mention of parents or witnesses in the index or would that only be on parish registers?
Thanks for your help

Gill   

[Pennie]

Sorry, you have all the information from the OMI for this marriage (it occasionally records the home parish of bride and/or groom, and sometimes groom's occupation, but not in this instance!).

You would need to find someone with the relevant PRs for more detailed information.

Pennie

PS Just to clarify - so that I don't mislead you - it's only on the 1841 census that ages of those over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 years (all subsequent censuses give actual ages).

[Iban Kepala]

Hi Gill,
Second message gives all the information I have found on the Deddington Parish Register Fiche in my possession. Not exactly what you were looking for from what I saw in your message but those are the details fom the register. I shall be rechecking those other details I have mentioned,
Cheers,
George.

[Iban Kepala]

Hi,
Had a minor hiccup you may get part of this message twice-
Repeating - Baptisms - Deddington PR's.
16 Feb 1771 CHILLINGWORTH, Susanna. d/o William & Anne.
6 Jan 1774              "                 Sophia,     "        "           "
19 Jun 1775            "      Nathaniel Day French s/o "        "
21 Sep 1779           "                  Ann, d/o               "        "
nothing further for this family.
Marriage.
15 Jan 1767 CHILLINGWORTH, William of St Ebbs, Oxford.
                     FRENCH, Ann, o.t.p.
 Wit. Saml. MALLINS, Eliz. BESLEY.      Lic.

Baptisms.
24 Dec 1800 CHILLINGWORTH, Ralph s/o Edward & Mary.

5 Aug 1805            "                 Charlotte Ann, d/o Day & Fanny
9 May 1808            "                 Ann Lovell, d/o D & F.
9 May 1813            "                 Day, s/o D & F.

13 Sep 1814          " (BT's William s) s.o William & Lucy.

Nothing further apparent up to 1825, I then checked the Index and it seems there are four others 1833/34/35 & 1840, will re-examine tomorrow and come back to you.
No mentions in the Banns index so this latter marriage must have been elsewhere.
Hope this is of help.
Cheers
George.

[Iban Kepala]

Hi again Gill,
Herewith remaining information on CHILLINGWORTH's from the Deddington fiche.
Baptisms.
26 Apr 1833 CHILLINGWORTH, William Edmund. s/o Edmund
                                                           & Elizabeth.  slatter.
17 Aug 1834        "    Edgar,                        s. E & E plasterer
30 Jul 1836          "   Ralph, s/o E & E. plasterer & beerhouse
                                             keeper, privately, since dead.

10 Jan 1840         "    Frances Caroline, d/o William & Lucy.
                                                                      plasterer.

Point of interest maybe - (Wife of William - baptism)
18 Aug 1742 FRENCH, Ann. d/o Nathaniel  Day & Ann.

Burials.
25 Jan 1805 CHILLINGWORTH, Sophia, 31 years. o.t.p.
23 Apr 1806            "                 Ann      64    "         "
14 Oct 1816            "                 William, 74    "
10 Jun 1821            "                 Frances, 43   "
20 Mar 1832            "                 Frances, 45  "
3 Aug 1836             "     Ralph, 6 weeks by Coroner's Warrant
30 Jul 1837             "     Edmund, 69, married, decay of   
                                                                                  nature.
20 Sep 1838           "     Mary, 77, widow, decay of nature.
29 Oct 1843            "     William, 11 years.
17 Sep 1848           "      Day, 74, Woodstock Union W/house.
Trust that lot is to your satisfaction and helps in filling some spaces.
Cheers,
George.

[Iban Kepala]

Hi Gill,
No problems about the delay in responding as I presumed that you might be on holiday or working. Not everyone is retired and  free to work on these sites most of the day as I am.
The Ralph to whom you refer, baptised 30 July 1836, was the one who died and was buried by Coroner's Warrant on the 3 Aug 1836.
I would definitely consider most of the ones I listed would be connected somewhow or another from my own experiences but the headache is sorting them out, especially as you say there seems to be another community/village associated. I generally attack a problem like this in the same way that I do a jig saw. Start with the 'straight edge' i.e.  the marriages then list the children under each of them until I have them all sorted. Then look for their marriages some twenty years or so later and so on. In the 15/16/17/18 centuries the majority of folks did not move very far away, generally the distance they could possibly walk in a few hours or so, so marking circle on a map with radii of five or ten miles usually brings in all the possible marriage locations.
I thank you for the offer of a look up at Liverpool RO. I, well at least my Aussie cousin does, have one brickwall - one Peter WATSON, bapt. c. 1825 at St Peter's, L'pool. Will have to check back with Val for fuller details as that is about all I can remember off hand and will have to find my notebooks to see what else I may have on him, not a lot if I remember rightly.
If I can help in any way in sorting out the CHILLINGWORTH's sing out and I will try my best.
Regards,
George.