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1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« on: Wednesday 12 September 07 22:04 BST (UK) »
Hi everybody,

In 1899 John died in Barrowford, Lancashire aged 73. According to the 1891 census he was an army pensioner aged 64. A copy of his death certificate confirms this information so far. In 1881 census he was 54. So far so good. All makes sense. I am trying to connect him to my ancestor who I believe was his half sister, Mary Ann Harris nee Gibbins. In 1881 he is listed as brother-in-law to Mary Ann's husband. I just seem to be missing the final piece of the puzzle.

I believe Mary Ann Gibbins was born to Ann Gibbins c 1824 who later married Thomas Dawson in 1826. From the union of Thomas and Ann were several children. One son was William born c 1833 who married Harriet who was registered as sister in law and  witness at the death of John in 1899. In Barrowford, Lancashire.

Unfortunately, I can only find the christening of John Dawson to Thomas and Ann in 1836 in Corby. Even though he was born 1826. Maybe he was christened when he was 10 who knows or the 1836 should have read 1826?????

Between 1851 and 1861 he was serving in the East Indies after joining up in 1845.

Hopefully the 1841 or 51 census for Thomas Dawson and Ann will confirm their children.  William at least. I would hope for John and Mary to be there to but I don;t believe they are.

In 1871 he could be anywhere between Castle Bytham and Barnoldswick or Nelson in Lancashire.

I have William and Harriet in 1891 and 1901.

If I could find John in 1841 with Thomas and Ann Dawson and Mary Ann Gibbins the puzzle will be solved. I feel as though I have enough evidence to prove the connection but I would love absolute proof, well as far as it can go.

Any help with 1841 or 1871 would be amazing.

Thank  you

Very best regards

Amanda (who has a slight headache after all that)
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 September 07 01:12 BST (UK) »
Could this be them?

1841 H0107/616 / 9 folio 16 page  24 Corby, Beltisloe lincolnshire Reg district Grantham

Church Street
Thomas Dawson age 35 ag lab all born in county
Ann Dawson age  40
Eliza Dawson age 10
Isaac Dawson age 10
Betsy Dawson age 3
William Dawson age 8

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 September 07 02:25 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 it has

William Harris age 48 fire beaker at cotton mill Castle bytham lincolnshire
Mary A Harris age 56 Market deeping
Ann Atkinson age 33 boarder under boarder Step daughter cotton winder born Castle Bytham
John Dawson age 54 boarder brother in law green grocers lab Corby
Catherine A Dawson age 41 boarder sister in law Ceylon India
/ William Dykes Lodger
Susanah lodgers wife


Did Mary Ann marry before or William??

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 September 07 02:36 BST (UK) »
1871 RG10/4261 folio 75 page  41 Barnoldswick Yorkshire

William Harris age 36 born Castle Bytham Lincolnshire Carter
Mary Ann Harris age 45 Corby Lincolnshire
Sarah Rich. Harris age 20 dau Cotton spinner children born Castle Bytham
Emma dau age 14
Farnk son age 13
Isaac son age 11
 Duxbury family boarders

would it be likely John was in Yorkshire??

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 September 07 06:37 BST (UK) »
1861 Castle bytham,Beltisloe Lincolnshire reg district Bourn sub reg distric Corby

Castle Bytham
William Harris age 27 Castle Bytham lincolnshire Horse Keeper
Mary Ann age 36 Deeping lincolnshire
Ann Rick dau of wife age 13 castle Bytham
Emma Harris dau age 3 Castle Bytham
next page
Frank Harris  son age 2 all born Castle Bytham
Isaac  Harris son age 11 months

Next door
Edward Harris age 67 road lab
Susanna age 57
Samuel son age 16

William Harris married Mary Ann  Rick 1855 June quarter Bourne Lincolnshire 7a 478


Mary Ann Gibbins married John Rick sept quarter Bourne Lincolnshire  14 363  1845

1851 RG10107/295 folio 53 page  33 Castle Bytham lincolnshire Reg district Bourn sub reg district Corby
John Rick age  37 ag lab Castle Bytham Lincolnshire
Mary  Rick age 24 born Corby
Ann  Rick dau age 4 Castle Bytham
Sarah Rick age 1 Castle Bytham
George Ratledge lodger age 24
Elen Ratledge lodger age 33

1861 RG9/2315 folio 102 page 5 counthorpe Beltisloe Lincolnshire reg district Bourn sub reg district Corby

Sarah Rick servant age 11 born Blyth Lincolnshire

with the Nidd family

Thomas Dawson of Swaton married Ann Gibbons
Horbling Lincolnshire 1826



Ann Elizabeth Rick married David Atkinson 1870 June quaretr Burnley Lancashire/Yorkshire/West Riding  8e 285

1891 RG12/3381 folio  152 page 29 Barrowford Lancashire

Gisborn Road

William harris age 57 market Gardener Castle Bytham Lincolnshire
Mary Ann age 66 Market deeping lincolnshire
John Richardson lodger

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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 September 07 07:39 BST (UK) »
1891 RG12/3382  folio 4 page 1 Barrowford Lancashire


2 Grey Street
John Dawson age 64 born Corby lincolnshire
enumerated Toby in Lincoln  Army pensioner
Cathrine Dawson age 51 born Ceylon in India

did they marry abroad??

Pam
oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham.

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshi
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 September 07 08:25 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately, I can only find the christening of John Dawson to Thomas and Ann on 24 Nov 1836 in Corby. Even though he was born 1826. Maybe he was christened when he was 10 who knows or the 1836 should have read 1826?????

I think this burial (from National Burial Index) probably applies to that child-

5 Dec 1836 Corby, John DAWSON (inf)

While the existence of a son called John born in 1836 doesn't exclude the possibility of another John born 1826, to my mind it makes it less likely.
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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 September 07 10:08 BST (UK) »
Could this be them?

1841 H0107/616 / 9 folio 16 page  24 Corby, Beltisloe lincolnshire Reg district Grantham

Church Street
Thomas Dawson age 35 ag lab all born in county
Ann Dawson age  40
Eliza Dawson age 10
Isaac Dawson age 10
Betsy Dawson age 3
William Dawson age 8

Pam

Hi Pam

Thank you so much for the masses of info. The 1841 is the correct family but, unfortunately, it doesn't have the answer I was looking for. There is no John born 1826 nor Mary Ann Ginnins born 1824. However, that only means they were not there on the evening of the census. They may have been where they worked. It does confirm the rest of the family though so that is good.

Thank you

Best regards

Amanda
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire

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Re: 1841 & 1871 census look-up, please - John Dawson born 1826 Corby, Lincolnshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 September 07 10:17 BST (UK) »
On the 1881 it has

William Harris age 48 fire beaker at cotton mill Castle bytham lincolnshire
Mary A Harris age 56 Market deeping
Ann Atkinson age 33 boarder under boarder Step daughter cotton winder born Castle Bytham
John Dawson age 54 boarder brother in law green grocers lab Corby
Catherine A Dawson age 41 boarder sister in law Ceylon India
/ William Dykes Lodger
Susanah lodgers wife


Did Mary Ann marry before or William??

Mary Ann was previous married to John Rick who died 1852. Mary and JOhn daughter Ann marreid David Atkinson in 1870.

Best regards

Amanda

Pam
Salkeld - Alston, Grassington, Earby, Burnley
Brotherton - Burnley, Barnoldswick
Layfield - Burnley
Child - Bradford
Payne - Poulton Le Fylde, Burnley, Brierfield
Harris - Castle Bytham, Nelson, Barrowford
Sage - Boxted, Langham, West Riding, Lancashire
Hastie - Lanarkshire
Gillon - Lanarkshire