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CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« on: Wednesday 19 September 07 07:44 BST (UK) »
Hi All
My Great Grandfather was born in Starcross Devon, supposedly on the 29th February, 1829, which I realise is an impossible date. He, William Henry Carpenter, was the son of John Carpenter (christened 26th October, 1794, at Kenton Devon, and Mary Brewer, (christened 17Dec, 1790, at Kenton Devon). They were married on 29th May, 1821 in Kenton and he died20th October, 1836, at Kenton. I don't know of any sisters or brothers for William, or any other English information. He came to Victoria Australia inDecember 1852 on the Ticonderoga. I would like to find his birth or christening date, and any information on his siblings. Any assistance would be appreciated
Sincerely
John Carpenter
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Wilcher - Bermondsey and Birmingham
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Price - Monmouthshire
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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 09:33 BST (UK) »
Hi John

A look at the 1841 Census shows the following William that may be the one you are searching for :-

1841 Census England Devon Kenton
HO107/220/10/14
Kenton Village

CARPENTER
Mary 45 Independent Yes
William 11 Yes
Thomas HOLLET 75 Ag Lab Yes
Mary HOLLET 70 Yes
John BREWER 70 Ag Lab Yes

Not sure if Mary was widowed or not as there are no relationships given on this census.

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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 09:39 BST (UK) »

This may be Mary in 1851 :-

1851 Census England Devon Kenton
HO107/1867/592/37

CARPENTER
Mary Head Wid 61 Devon Kenton
John Son Unmarr 28 Ag Lab Devon Kenton
Robert Son Unmarr 25 Ag Lab Devon Kenton
Henry YOULSON Gr Son Unmarr 4 Devon Kenton

The presence of a son John is helpful.  The grandson means that there was a daughter as well.

Hope that this helps
Karenlee
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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 09:46 BST (UK) »


John

The IGI shows children of John CARPENTER and Mary nee BREWER as :-

Joanna christened 2 Sept 1827 Kenton Devon   died 11 Jan 1829

Children of John CARPENTER and Mary no maiden surname given :-

Anne christened 12 Aug 1821 Kenton Devon
William christened 24 May 1829 Kenton Devon
John christened 2 Feb 1823 Kenton Devon
Robert christened 1 May 1825 Kenton Devon

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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 11:02 BST (UK) »

Ann CARPENTER married Henry YOULDEN 1844

This would be the parents of Henry the grandson shown with Mary in 1851.

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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 14:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you KarenLee. I now have some brothers and sisters for William, and another surname. How do you get into the 1841 census and the IGI?
Jason
PS I just started searching the LDS sight but still don't know how to get into the IGI
JC
Carpenter - Devon and Australia
Flett - Orkneys
Morrell - Antrim, France, Switzerland and Ballarat
Wilcher - Bermondsey and Birmingham
Roberts - Liverpool
Price - Monmouthshire
Smith - Orkneys
Barnsley - Cumberland
Discombe - Devon
Brewer - Devon
Torrington - Devon

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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 19 September 07 23:07 BST (UK) »
JC

Go to the LDS site.  At the top of the homepage are 4 yellow tabs marked Home, Search, Share and Library.  If you click on the Search tab, you will get a page with the title Search for Ancestors, All Resources.  On the left side of this page you will find a series of links, the 4th of which is the International Genealogical Index aka the IGI.  Click on this link and you will be there.

As for the Census, there is the FreeCen site and a couple of websites that have specific county information, but at present I think the best resource is Ancestry UK.  It is a pay per view site but well worth the money if you intend to do a lot of research over the next few years. 

Alternatively there are sites  like this one, where you can request a Census lookup from one of the other RC members.

Don't hesitate to ask for help if you need it, there are lots of people here who can give you lots of information and advice that will help you find what you need.

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Karenlee
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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 February 08 07:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Karenlee
Your advice and assistance has been invaluable. I should have thanked you earlier and I'm sorry that I  didn't. I have spent a lot of time being a lot more productive because of your help, and I really appreciate your guidance
Sincerely
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Jason
Carpenter - Devon and Australia
Flett - Orkneys
Morrell - Antrim, France, Switzerland and Ballarat
Wilcher - Bermondsey and Birmingham
Roberts - Liverpool
Price - Monmouthshire
Smith - Orkneys
Barnsley - Cumberland
Discombe - Devon
Brewer - Devon
Torrington - Devon

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Re: CARPENTER of Starcross or Kenton, Devon
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 February 08 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jason,

As your family seemed to stay in the Kenton area you may find this site useful:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02ne/

All you need to do is scroll down to Kenton. Dates of christenings are in one column, marriages in the other. Click on the number required which will take you to another page.
Enter the surname you are searching for in the box in the top right corner and click on search/enter. This takes you to all the mentions of your surname in Kenton in marriages/christenings. It is basically a short cut to the information on the IGI.

Using this I have found a couple of possibles for you.

John Carpenter chr 26 Oct 1794
father John Carpenter, mother Susanna

John Carpenter = Susannah Discombe 8 Oct 1780 Kenton

Mary Brewer chr 17 Dec 1790 Kenton
father John Brewer mother Martha

John Brewer = Martha Hartwill 18 Dec 1788 Kenton

Don't you love it when the ancestors stay in the same place?