Atlantic Crossings-Lost in transit.

[Spanish_Eyes]

Your welcome......... If I find anything else I will let you know.

[kaz]

Hi,
This is perhaps one to keep in mind - although its not very detailed:



 
 
 
 
 
Name: Mrs COLGAN 
Date of departure: 4 September 1903   
Port of departure: Londonderry   
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada   
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada   
 
Age: Adult 
Marital Status: Married 
Sex: Female 
Occupation: Housewife 
 
   

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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: - 
 
 Miss COLGAN (Domestic)
 
 

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Ship:
 
 PRETORIAN
 
---This is perhaps Kathleen:

 
 
 
 
 
Name: Kathleen COLGAN 
Date of departure: 15 February 1904   
Port of departure: Liverpool   
Passenger destination port: Saint John Nb, Canada   
Passenger destination: Saint John Nb, Canada   
 
Age: 21 
Marital Status: Single 
Sex: Female 
Occupation: Nil 

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Ship:

 LAKE ERIE
 
Saint John Nb, Canada

 
 
 

Kaz

[Spanish_Eyes]

This seems to be Margaret Sr. and the one daughter Kathleen although I wonder why the other daughter 3 years younger was not traveling with one of them unless the Miss Colgan is Margaret Jr.

Kathleen being listed as age 21 would make close sense as she was born in Feb 1884 and the trip was in Feb 1904 making it 1883 for her birth unless the age was writen down as 21 instead of 20.

Spanish Eyes

[geniecolgan]

Kaz,   

I think you have found 3 of my missing 4 and I think Margaret jr. is traveling with Mrs Colgan.
Kathleen, being older, may have travelled on her own.
Thank you.

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Let me run a theory here:-

If the whole family left for Canada in the same year then, as time goes by, it might become "they all sailed to Canada together". (You know how stories get passed down)

...... and .......

If the younger males went out as the advanced contingent to build the farmhouse for the women to follow this would fit in with what you've found.

Does this sound feasible?

All opinions welcome.

Genie

[Spanish_Eyes]

It is quite possible although they sure ended up all over the place. As you said they seemed to stray far and wide.....

Spanish Eyes

[kaz]

You may wish to find the corresponding immigration docs/passenger list for their Canadian arrival. The UK passenger lists don't seem to have much info but  the equivalent Canadian docs has names , addresses etc.

Kaz

P.S Sorry couldn't find the father........

[geniecolgan]

Kaz,
     I'm most grateful for what you have found. They are nearly all accounted for now.
 It helped a lot to know which ships they were on. I had been scouring the Archives Canada passenger lists for the whole of 1903/4 and my eyeballs were out on stalks 

Now I've found the image for  Kathleen on the Lake Erie and most of her line is legible except for her destination. It looks like (somewhere?), Ont. 

 I still can't find the image of Mrs & Miss Colgan (Margaret sr. & jr.) on the Pretorian, they may be there but some of the images are really hard to read.

I’ll leave this topic open for a bit just in case someone find Charles Colgan sr.  on a boat for me.

Spanish_Eyes - many thanks to you also.

Genie

[Spanish_Eyes]

Could this be the Charles Sr and some other family members. I am not a member so I cant get all the info maybe you can find someone who is.

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Last name: Colgan 
First name(s): Charles (including variants)
Sex: Male 
Year of departure: 1890 to 1939 
Departure port: Londonderry
 
Results:
• 3 records shown include exact matches.
• 3 records include initial C and exact matches. 
• 3 records include unstated first name, initial C and exact matches. 
 
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Last name   
First name 
Age 
Sex
Year of departure
Departure port
Destination country
Destination port

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COLGAN Charles  2    M  1922   Londonderry   USA        New York   
COLGAN Chas T   38  M  1903   Londonderry   Canada  Quebec 
COLGAN Chas      26  M  1907   Londonderry   USA        New York   
 
http://www.findmypast.com/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action

Spanish Eyes

[geniecolgan]

Hi Spanish Eyes,

Nope! none of those are Charles Colgan sr. None of the ages come close to a match.
I’m not even sure what port he left from but he did leave because he’s in London in 1900 and Prince Albert, Sask. by 1906.

He was born in Feb.1854 in Co. Antrim, married in Jan.1875 age 20.
I’ve got him in 1881 age 27 and 1891 age 36 in London.
In 1900 he retired from the Met. Police in London.
I can’t see him on the 1901 census so he could be back in Ulster.
By 1906 he’s on the Western Terr. Census age 52.
In 1911 Canada Census, age 57.
He died in 1912 in Sask.

The Chas T. in 1903 is Charles Templeton Colgan, the son, it’s just that his age is wrong. It should have been 28 not 38. He is traveling with his 3 brothers on the Ionian and he’s on the 1906 Western Terr. census too.

You wouldn’t think that with all those Charles Colgans wondering about we could miss him eh?     

Genie