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BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« on: Tuesday 02 October 07 09:00 BST (UK) »
Can anyone spot the following members of the BALL family in the 1841 or later censuses?

Children of John BALL (1773-?) and Mary PARFITT (1785-?):
Mary Ann bap Cloford 10 Apr 1808
John bap Cloford 15 Jul 1810
Richard b Cloford about 1817

Children of Harry BALL (1771-?) and Elizabeth (Betsy) PRATTEN (1775-?):
Ann bap Cloford 15 Sep 1799
Mary bap Cloford 29 Jun 1801
Harry bap Cloford 28 Oct 1804

Any help in identifying what became of these people - or other potential members of these families such Kimbra BALL born in Cloford around 1814 who married Benjamin HODDINOTT in 1835 - would be most gratefully received.

Kind regards and thanks

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 14:31 GMT (UK) »
living in frome somerset in 1851 -
bellow hill farm
benjamin hoddinott 39yrs farmer
kimbra 36yrs wife born cloford
ellen 15yrs daughter born frome
john 12yrs son church scholor born nunney
ann 9yrs daughter born nunney
henry 4yrs son born nunney
emma 2yrs daughter born frome
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1932
FOLIO-603
PAGE-6

still in frome in 1861-
friggle street
benjamin hoddinott 50yrs farmer of 40 acres
kimbra 47yrs wife
john 22yrs unmarried son
henry 15yrs unmarried son
emma 12yrs daugyter
rosa 7yrs daughter
SOURCE INFO-RG9-1655
FOLIO-85
PAGE-9

in frome still in 1871-
benjamin hoddinott 60yrs farmer
kimbra 58yrs wife
benjamin 7yrs grandson
SOURCE INFO-RG10-2433
FOLIO-53
PAGE-2
will be back with rest later
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 17:53 GMT (UK) »
looks like daughter emma married james butler
living in ebbesbourne wake wiltshire in 1881-
james butler 32yrs farm bailiff
emma 22yrs wife born frome somerset
male butler  INITITALS H.K 1yr old son
male butler 24 days old not named son
kimbra hoddinott 65yrs married visitor  farmers wife born somerset
+ 1 servant
SOURCE INFO-RG11-2075
FOLIO-101
PAGE-2

emma hoddinott married james francis butler 1879 june qtr frome district
kimbra hoddinott aged 73yrs death registered june qtr 1886 frome district
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 18:02 GMT (UK) »
this might be of interest to you-
john ball hoddinott married ellen creese june qtr 1861 then according to 1871 cencus moved to wiltshire
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 18:10 GMT (UK) »
going back to your balls so to speak  ;D
living in nunney somerset in 1851-
richard ball 35yrs journeyman blacksmith born cloford
mary 33yrs wife born withem friery
john 6yrs son
richard 4yrs son
SOURCE INFO-H0107-1932
FOLIO-72
PAGE-2

richard ball married either mary ann wilkins or mary ann edwards sept 1844 frome district
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alli
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 December 07 06:08 GMT (UK) »
Dear Alli

Sorry bout the delay in writing back; I have been off the air for the past few days.

Many thanks for this heap of very useful information, which I have now put into my database.

I have managed to find Richard Ball under the name Richard BULL in 1861, so I guess that he may be hiding under a different transcription in other years as well.

Thanks a lot for your help.

Kind regards

Philip Candy

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 December 07 07:08 GMT (UK) »
wonder if this could be harry junior?
hes the only harry ball of correct age in somerset in 1841 unfortunately it doesnt give parish of birth in 1841 and he has died by 1851 but maybe some of the names are family ones?
living in kilmersden,elm somerset in 1841-
harry ball 37yrs innkeeper born in county
jane 40yrs
jane 14Yrs
rosa/nora 10yrs
lucy 3yrs
emma 6 months
SOURCE INFO-H0107-942
FOLIO-9
PAGE-9

here is widow in 1851 -
elm village
jane ball 50yrs widow keeper of beer house born frome
jane.e 24yrs unmarried daughter born frome
lucy 15yrs daughter scholor born elm
emma.s 10yrs born elm
+ 1 visitor
SOURCE INFO-H0107- 1932
FOLIO-767
PAGE-11
REGARDS
ALLI
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 December 07 07:20 GMT (UK) »
ball marriages in cloford-
27th aug 1792 - benjamin ball and fanny candy botp witnesses - thomas ball and john holley
10th sept 1807 -
john ball and mary parfitt botp witnesses -william clark and ann parfitt
14th feb 1828 -
mary ball and jonathon parfitt bptp.witnesses - john clark and h daniels
7th may 1835 ( i think u already have this )
kimbra ball and benjamin hoddinott botp.witnesses were joseph hoddinott and jane baker
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: BALL family of Cloford; where did they go?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 December 07 07:26 GMT (UK) »
ball burials in cloford-
ANN BALL 9 months buried 20th may 1801
MARY BALL widower 66yrs buried 26th may 1801
HARRY BALL an infant son on harry ball and elizabeth buried 4th aug 1803
HARRIETT BALL an infant daughter of william and sarah buried 3rd aug 1810
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alli
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk.
somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney
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