Area / Place called IRONSIDE

[DUNMAC]

Hi, found this on same page of an OPR Marriage, it might be of use.

Ironside & Barclay: Monquhitter, Aberdeenshire:
June 19th. 1810:
Enoch Ironside at Swanford, parish of Fyvie and Elizabeth Barclay at Castle of Auchry in this parish were legally married.

                                                Regards,
                                                        Dunmac.

[Kin-getter]

Sorry folks - what about the thread starter? I asked about the place and any details - things have drifted well away, almost to the point where I ask "Could someone not have opened a new thread?"

James.

[Tricia_2]

I'm not a local, but I checked out Google & found a few interesting items:

This is about Scottish names used in Australia:

'Official suburbs and other localities with names that occur only in Scotland and not elsewhere in the British Isles'

'Ironside (Aberdeenshire). The suburb was named for William Alexander Wilson's wife, using her maiden name. Wilson, the owner of a local sugar cane plantation, was born in St Lucia in the West Indies.'

http://www.rampantscotland.com/placenames/placename_brisbane.htm

As well as the one near Maud, there is also an 'Ironside Hill' between Dundee & Forfar.
I found both on www.streetmap.co.uk


This may be of interest:
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWironside.htm


Also these items about, I believe, Queensland in Australia:

'Ironside ~ In 1885 William Alexander Wilson subdivided land on the east side of Ryans Road and named it Ironside Estate after his wife's maiden name (Lydia Matilda Ironside). ... Ironside is now a neighbourhood within the suburb of St Lucia.'
http://www.dovenetq.net.au/~piula/Placenames/page31.html

'Saint Lucia ~ The university suburb is named after the island of St Lucia in the West Indies, or at least it is named after W.A.Wilson’s property which he named after the West Indian island where he was born. William Alexander Wilson purchased Dart's Coldridge Plantation in 1882 and renamed it The St Lucia Sugar Plantation.....'
http://www.dovenetq.net.au/~piula/Placenames/page57.html

It indicates that the places abroad named 'Ironside' are named after this woman, and are also connected to the place in Scotland.

Perhaps the 'Ironsides' in Scotland are related tro her family.

[Tricia_2]

Do you think that the origin of the name could be connected to St. Margaret, Queen of Scotland, who was the granddaughter of Edmund Ironside?

Margaret, Queen of Scotland
http://elvis.rowan.edu/~kilroy/JEK/11/16.html

St. Margaret of Scotland
http://www.scotlandvacations.com/StMargaret.htm

[Blandy]

To James,
My sincere apologies for tagging on to your thread.....as I was new to the group I was not sure what I was doing and saw the name Ironside. I meant no offence.....I willl start my own thread on the name Ironside.
Thank you to all who have helped me.
My apologies again, James.
Isabel, Australia.

[Kin-getter]

Hi Isabel,

Thanks for that. Part of the problem in tagging on to a thread is that future viewers may not bother to look at 'your' posting if it is buried in another topic.
The title of this thread is "Area / Place called IRONSIDE".
As it happens, I am also interested in the surname Ironside in connection with Fraserburgh in particular.

All part of Life's Learning Curve eh?

James.

[Kin-getter]

Do you think that the origin of the name could be connected to St. Margaret, Queen of Scotland, was the granddaughter of Edmund Ironside?

Margaret, Queen of Scotland
http://elvis.rowan.edu/~kilroy/JEK/11/16.html

St. Margaret of Scotland
http://www.scotlandvacations.com/StMargaret.htm

Some interesting points raised there in both your messages, thanks very much. More to look into now.

James.

[Tricia_2]

I know that it is the place rather than the people that you are interested in, but I can't help thinking that, far enough back, the two are going to be the same.

This might be interesting:
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.ironside/38/mb.ashx

[Kin-getter]

I know that it is the place rather than the people that you are interested in, but I can't help thinking that, far enough back, the two are going to be the same.

This might be interesting:
http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.ironside/38/mb.ashx

My thoughts are that perhaps its a chicken or the egg situation - any bets folks?