can't find conwil elvet 1841 census - COMPLETED

[manaw]

bit of a disappointment with the marriage cert. dated sept 30th 1847 in Llanllawddog Parish Church between Benjamin Davies servant and Mary Davies servant.  Her father's name is down as David Jacob, labourer and his is Richard Davies, weaver.

Llanllawddog isn't so far from conwil elved.

however neither Benjamin or Mary could write - they have just put their mark on the certificate.

this isn't really consistent with Benjamin being a Baptist preacher - he must have been able to read the bible so wouldn't have signed his mark - he would have used his signature.  The father's occupation is identified as weaver - which is consistent with the fact that Benjamin went on to run woollen mills but it just doesn't stack up on balance.

never mind I'll keep ploughing on.  I'm working my way through all the parishes in the area looking for Benjamins and Marys.

[manaw]

another thought is that if I was able to work the other way I might get there.  How would I go about finding out who were the children of Daniel Davies of Talgoed? he was 74 in the 1841 census so it isn't easy to track.

would anyone have records available from Penybont Baptist church in Llandysul that would illuminate!?

[osprey]

If that Penybont Baptist comes under Llanfihangel yr Arth, according to Genuki, there are some documents at the National Library in Aberystwyth covering births 1801 -1865 and other documents covering 1845 - 1892 ref Ms 1099 - 1100A.

[manaw]

thanks osprey

[welsh lady]

Sadly doesnt look like the correct marriage cert .Id back track a bit and get John P Davies birth cert to confirm Mothers Maiden name is Davies.

Welsh Lady

[manaw]

will report back when I have it - thanks

[manaw]

I can find 16 John Davies' whose births were registered at carmarthen in 1858 which is the year I think he was born.

there is 1 john phillip davies registered at llandeilofawr in 1857.

the census shows that my john p davies was born either in llangathen or llanfynydd (2 differnt censuses say different birth locations for the same person).

my question is where would someone born in llangathen or llanfynydd have their birth registered?  my instinct is to say carmarthen because his father came from conwil elvet but I would probably have to go and look at the records in person because it could get expensive to order all the certificates.

however it might be worth taking a punt on john phillip's cert if it turns out that people born in llangathen or llanfynydd were registered in llandeilofawr.

[osprey]

both Llangathen and Llanffynydd come under Carmarthen. If youre using FreeBmd, click on the registration district you're interested in, then the highlighted here on the following page, you'll get a list of the parishes that are covered by that registration district. 

[manaw]

looks like they were llandeilofawr pre 1935

I've sent off for the birth cert - it's a good job they gave him two Christian names - John Davies is about as common as they get.

Also his birth was registered in June whilst the census was in April so the fact that he was 3 in the 1861 census is consistent with this.