Gorstach in Bebington

[rubyrose]

Hi All

I am on a bit of a roll with the other half's family, as per usual, and have found what looks a very likely link back to the 1600s in Cheshire.

I have a Clement Anglesea (or Anglizer) marrying an Eleanor Gorstach in 1679.

What I cannot get is any information beyond 1623 on the Gorstach family, which just seems to have appeared in Bebington in that year. I am wondering if this is a name from another European country and have tried google for an origin without success. Anybody else got this family or know anything about them or the name?

As usual, I would very much appreciate any help you can offer.

Regards

Ruby

[celia]

http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/Live/v3.3/overview.html

Hello Ruby, my you have got a long way back, lucky you
Would i be right in saying that you got the marriage of Elizabetha & Ellenora Gorstach to guilielmus & Clement.From the above website.And that you also have the 12 Christening for the children of the marriages.

Celia

[rubyrose]

Hi Celia

Yes, I've been lucky with my hubby's family, I've got his grandmother's Yorkshire line back to 1590 and now it looks as if I have struck lucky with his grandad's Cheshire line. (My family is mostly stuck in the 1800s - but I'm not bitter!)

I already had the female part of the family back to 1757 but I recently found the rest of them on the Cheshire parish records website. Its a really good site.

My interest is in Eleanor Gorstach (daughter of Robert Gorstach) who married Clement Anglesea in 1679 and who would appear to be part of my husband's line. Their daughter Ellen or Eleanor Anglesea, who married John Ellis in 1710, could be my husband's 6xgreat grandmother. I will have to check it out at the Cheshire Records Office but it looks like a strong possibility.

On the Cheshire parish records website, besides the 7 children of Robertus listed in the birth records, there are also three other children for Robertus Gorstach, shown on the death records, another set of twins Anna and Margareta who died in 1653 and Martha who died in 1671.

The name Gorstach is really unusual and I would like to find out more about it. Have you ever come across this one in your research?

Regards

Ruby

[celia]

Hi Ruby
So i presume thats a yes to my question The names Ellenora , Elizabetha,guiliemus,and the others gave me visions of knights on white horses I have to say it's much easier to do research on a family like yours.That stayed in one place ,mind you i don't suppose there was much option in those days   I agree you will have to take another trip to the Cheshire & chester Archives for such old records if they have survived that is. I have never seen any original records only partly transcribed ones i find in local books.Or on on film,but they are mostly marrages and don't go that far back.On saying that though one does go back to the fifteen hundreds, Marriages Christening and burial.They might be the ones on the website i gave you and that you know of.So they are probably the same records.Because the Christian names you have are very old English like the ones i have seen.The Name Gorstach doesn't ring any bells though You may need a History buff on this one

Celia

[rubyrose]

Hi Celia

Yes, I have been lucky, the Cheshire lot seem to have been in the area for about 200 years and then moved to Teeside in the 1870s to work in the shipyards there. They then moved back to Cheshire and then Liverpool about 1911. The Yorkshire branch of the family were in the same little village for about 300 years before moving to Middlesbrough and then, through marriage into the Cheshire lot, back to Liverpool.

As you say, I'll just have to hope that a clever history buff recognises the Gorstach name.

Many thanks for your help.

Regards

Ruby

[rubyrose]

Hi again Celia

I have just done a search on the IGI for Gorstach and have discovered that the name is sometimes written as Gorstich or Gorstage. A google search for Gorstage reveals that there is a village of this name near to Northwich and that the place Gorstage was sometimes written as Gorstich in the old records.

I think that just about resolves the puzzle. Gorstach must be an ancient variant of Gorstage.

So my dreams of having some ancestors from another European country are shattered!

Regards

Ruby

[celia]

I have just done a search on the IGI for Gorstach

You did that while i took a coffee break,before i did

So my dreams of having some ancestors from another European country are shattered!

Arrrr How Sad

Celia

[rubyrose]

Hi Celia

Well, we got there in the end. Two heads definitely better than one!

Many thanks for the help - nice to talk to you.

Regards

Ruby

[celia]

Hi me again
I tumbled on a post of yours before re parish registries.i am blowed if i can find it on the Cheshire board .Anyway it mentioned a marriage which was found for you. Magic

On the Cheshire Registers where i found the Gorstach. There is  marriage  for Alice Calvely to Thomas Baker-in 1862  residence of both was in tranmere they might be related so thought i let you know if you haven't got them

Celia