Could do with some advice on problem finding marriage

[madaboutbuns]

Hi

I'm not new to family work - am doing some family history for a friend and am totally stuck!  I could do with some advice on this please!

I have a birth or Ethel Audrey Ball, 25 Febuary 1916, Dawley, Madeley - her mum and dad were Isaiah Ball and Florence Ball - formerly (what looks like) Turner.

So I've tried to find their marriage, have done lots of searching - and have found two marriages of an Isaiah Ball, one is 1916, Ethel May Tudor, same area as above - I've got their marriage certificate and it isn't the right couple. 

Then I've found another marriage of an Isaiah Ball to a Florence Lane - 1908, thought with a Florence I had found the right couple as it is the right area, but then I got their marriage certificate now and her surname on marriage was Lane and it was written that she was spinster....

I've double checked the years, and am totally stuck on this one - do any of you think there is a chance that Florence Lane fibbed about her "condition"?

I know the Ball family came from Horsehay in Dawley and that is where this marriage was.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated! 

Chris

[PaulineJ]

1908. Marriage certificate.

witness names, location/ street address(es) age of bride, father's info?

Pauline

[Necromancer]

To quote Conan Doyle - "When you have eliminated the impossible, whats left - no matter how improbable - is the answer ... "

Not unknown for peeps to be economical with the truth on Certificates ..... otherwise you may have to assume they didnt marry at all ?

[madaboutbuns]

Pauline -

1908 Marriage Certificate -
He was a bachelor, lived in Horsehay common
She was a spinster, lived in Dawley
Witnesses were a John Napasar and Phoebe Bailey
So no family which is a bit strange!

Newf - possibly they didn't marry!

Oh I hate doing this work and being stuck like this!!!!

Any other idea's would be great!

Chris

[PaulineJ]

can't find any surname anywhere anything like Napasar.

How old were the bride & groom?. Father's info

Pauline

[madaboutbuns]

Hi Pauline

The groom Isaiah was 34, bachelor, Horsehay Common, Dad - John Ball, Waggoner

Florence Lane was 24, spinster, Dawley, Dad- Thomas William-Lane, Miner

[Ecneps]

In 1901 there are lots of Florences (popular name), living in Dawley, including a Florence Turner aged 15 living with her aunt, and that Florence Lane aged 17 living with parents Thomas and Harriet, so possibly just haven't found the right marriage yet?

Barbara

[Tati]

Hi all 

There is a Florence Lane with correct details on the 1901 census in Dawley. I've traced her back and her parents were married before her birth (and mum wasn't called Turner  )

[Ecneps]

Here's Isaiah, indexed under Batt:

1901 RG13/2563 fol.68 p.28
Cottage, Horsehay Common, Wellington
BALL
John   head m 49 Carter in Iron Works
Fanny  wife m 54
John H  son s 29 Plainer in Iron Works
Isaiah     "   s 27     "                "
Alfred      "   s 19  Plater           "
all born Horsehay

and full details for Florence Lane:
1901 RG13/2524 fol.52 p.11
Blues Hill, Dawley
LANE
Thomas W head m 51 Coal Miner  Salop Dawley
Harriet       wife  m 37                    Stafford Cannock
Florence     dau     17                         "             "
Emily            "        10                      Salop Dawley

perhaps it's the right marriage and the maiden surname is a mistake on the birth certificate?