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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 20:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Lyndsey

You say the shop is now a tanning shop.  There is one on the corner of Market Street and Fore Street, opposite the Corn Exchange (at the end of Market Street.  So if you have photos looking towards Shire Hall from the Corn Exchange it would be on the right.

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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #10 on: Monday 17 December 07 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hello Delta

Thank you for that. Aplogies for the delay in aknowledging your reply,
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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 27 December 07 12:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyndsey,

I've tried to find this marriage in the BMD index, without success too! (Ann is a distant cousin of mine) I'd lost her after 1881 and found Ann Freeman in 1891 as the most likely person to be her, but I can't find a marriage. I even considered that she may have had a short lived marriage between 1881 and marrying Mr. Freeman but no luck.

I was wondering how you knew that your GT grandmother was a Brett, and if you had any other scraps of information such as other names et c.

Sometimes you just can't find them but you never know- If I come across anything I'll let you know and I'd be interested to know if you find anything,
 Good Luck
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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 27 December 07 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Caz

Thank you for your message.

I know Gt Grandma Ann’s maiden name was Brett from what my Nan (Grace Freeman, b.1896 Edmonton) told me when I was a child and also I have a copy of Nan’s birth certificate where Ann Brett is named as her mother. You can have a copy if you pm me with your details.

She was born in Brent Pelham and Gt. Grandad Benjamin Freeman in Meesden. As these two hamlets are close to each other in Hertfordshire I had always assumed they were married either in Brent Pelham and Meesden and had moved to Edmonton together but, according to the 1881 census and the Meesden/Brent Pelham marriage registers, apparently not as in 1881 Benjamin was still in Meesden. I suppose it’s always possible that they weren’t married…….

I don’t think Benjamin was a particularly compassionate family man. Nan told a story how after her mother died/was buried he went off with another woman and none of his children ever saw him again. I think she said it was a female cousin but I can’t be sure. As she died in 1912 I have a long wait until the 1921 census is released to see if I can find him on that!

May I ask what particular Brett branch you are descended from? The Brett’s were a massive family and I’m always interested to learn more about them all.

Sorry I can’t tell you much. I know lots about Nan’s life and some about her siblings, if that is of any interest to you,  but very little about the generation before that!

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Lyndsey


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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #13 on: Friday 28 December 07 07:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyndsey,

Ann’s grandfather George Brett was brother to my great-great-grandfather David Brett born in 1803. They were sons of Joseph Brett and Amy Drage who were married in Furneux Pelham on 2/5/1785. I think there were 13 children altogether. David had at least 10 children, one of whom was my great-grandfather Benjamin. Benjamin had at least 17 children! So you’re right it’s a massive family. Will send you a pm.

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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 30 December 07 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Caz

I look forward to hearing from you.

It's  interesting that you are a descendant of Benjamin Brett. I know that he was married twice (Mary Newman and Emma Warwick). I only know about 12 of his off-spring but I'm in touch with a Warwick descendant who found the names of the other five - Arthur(1889), Matilda (1891), Lucy (1893), Alfred (1896) and Frederick (1900) on census records. As I don't have a death for Emma maybe you can tell me - was she also their mother or was there a third wife?

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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 10 February 08 20:38 GMT (UK) »
Yesterday I went to Hertford to look at 33 Fore Street, which is indeed the tanning shop on the corner of Market Street and Fore Street. While I was there I had the inspirational idea  of going into Hertford Museum and asking if they had any information about when it was the premises of George Savage, Basket Maker, in 1881.

It turned out to be a very good idea because the staff in there were very helpful and looked at their records which showed that the original No.33  was right next to the Corn Exchange where Market Street now is. It was pulled down in 1887 after being sold to ‘The Corporation’ by it’s owner (Henry Rayment, who also owned the large building opposite), presumably to make way for Market Street?

They didn’t have any photographs of it in their collection but later I was browsing in the bookshop in Railway Street and found a book with two photograph’s of George Savage’s shop front in it! It confirms that the demolished shop was completely identical in syle to the rest of them in that parade that are still standing – right down to the little attic room window at the top of the house which was probably the servants quarters and where Gt Grandma Ann would  have slept!

It was an amazing find and a very worthwhile trip. Thank you to all those of you who gave me advice and assisted me in my searching.

I, and others, have looked for the marriage of Ann and Gt Grandfather Benjamin Freeman and none has been found.  It’s my guess that they never actually married and just lived as husband and wife.

Best wishes

Lyndsey



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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 10 February 08 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Hello Lyndsey,
Very glad to hear that your trip was so successful. You had a lovely day for it as well.

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Re: Fore Street, Hertford in 1881
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 10 February 08 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Lyndsey,

It's good to hear the end of the story, (unless that marriage does turn up!!).
Nice to hear you had such a good day,

Best Wishes
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