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DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« on: Friday 14 December 07 23:42 GMT (UK) »
I have just noticed there were some DOWDESWELLs in Kingham in the 1700s. I have a marriage of Anthony HALE and Hannah DOKEWELL, Bledington, Glos, 1716. There are no other DOKEWELLS anywhere at all. Could she be a DOWDESWELL? Can anyone tell me whether there was a Hannah in the DOWDESWELL family in Kingham? Assuming she was 21ish at marriage, then 1790s birthdate.

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 October 08 23:14 BST (UK) »
I came up with your post when I did a search for the surname Dowdeswell.
Have you solved the mystery of Hannah Dokewell?
I don't know much about the Dowdeswell's of Kingham, except that they were related to the Dowdeswell's of Bushley, near Tewkesbury.
I have a Hannah Dowdeswell from that era unaccounted for. She would have been born before 1684, which might put her at the top of the marriageable age bracket. Her father, John Dowdeswell, was a farmer in Hazleton, and also had property in Temple Guiting. Both of these places are equi-distant to Bledington. The other interesting fact is Hannah's sister married in Chipping Campden, which is further away still.
I guess the only way to solve this mystery would be to look at the original register and study the handwriting.

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 October 08 00:02 BST (UK) »
After I posted, I went through my notes, and discovered that a third sister, Sarah Dowdeswell, married a Simon Ancell in Oddington, just up the road from Bledington.
It's looking more promising all the time.

Darren
I am Australian, from all the lands I come (my ancestors, at least!)

Pine/Pyne, Dowdeswell, Kempster, Sando/Sandoe/Sandow, Nancarrow, Hounslow, Youatt, Richardson, Jarmyn, Oxlade, Coad, Kelsey, Crampton, Lindner, Pittaway, and too many others to name.
Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 October 08 19:17 BST (UK) »
Hello Darren. Hannah is still unaccounted for so I am really glad to hear from you. I did have a look at the original marriage entry and - to my intense irritation - it was impossible to read it as anything other than Dokewell; the records were in a bit of a state when filmed and, try as I might, I could not see it as anything else. Unfortunately, records so poor could not photocopy.  Dowdeswell is my best guess - mostly due to its proximity to Bledington, though.

I do think your missing Hannah may be a candidate (I now see I have made a mistake in my original post,  her birth c1690-1695, obviously, not 1790s) and that it is worth further research; as you say, it looks promising.  Anthony HALE's approx birthdate is 1688 so Hannah pre-1684 may mean ages pretty close to one another.  Their last child was born 1731 though, so that might be a bit too much.  There is a Settlement Certificate on file at Oxford Records for an Anthony HALE and Hannah, to settle in Churchill, issued in 1716. I have not seen it as the archivist said there is no more definite info on it but it may be theirs.  Regardless of that, A and H did bring up a large family in Kingham. If you want to look for familiar family names linked with DOWDESWELL, A and H's  family is listed in an earlier rootsweb post. If you search this site with HALE, Kingham, Oxon, you should be able to view it. If not, let me know.  Also let me know if I can give you any further info - I have a tree on GR if you want to look at it.

I would be v glad to hear from you if you are inclined to pursue the trail. In the interim, I am looking for a later Hannah, 4 generations down from Miss Dokewell. Just about to post it now.

My thanks, Pat W


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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 October 08 20:26 BST (UK) »
Darren

Just took a look at the will of Anthony HALE (son of Anthony and Hannah b1722 - d1802). It is witnessed by 2 people called Ansells,  James and John-Jordan.  Don't know if you know them? Could they be from the Sarah Dowdeswell & Simon Ancell partnership? Have you any info on them?

Will is on ofhs transcribed wills website.  Pat W

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #5 on: Friday 10 October 08 21:51 BST (UK) »
Looking good.  Appears that John Jordan Ansell could be from Oddington. Pat W

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Hello again Pat,
I don't know if you've made any more progress with the Hannah Dokewell mystery, but I was going through my Dowdeswell notes, and I have another Hannah Dowdeswell, born between 1687-1708. She was from London, but I know that other family members moved back and forth. Have you come across a burial for your Hannah? It may just give an age.
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Devon, Dorset, Gloucs, Cornwall, Warwickshire, Bucks, Oxfordshire, Wilts, Germany, Sweden, and of course London, to name a few.

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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 23 December 08 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

    Dont know if this helps at all  :)

26 Jun 1749 Ann Dowdeswell to Robert Fowley at Kingham
9 Feb 1718 Arabella Dowdeswell to Joseph Percival at Kingham
29 Oct 1752 Lucy Dowdeswell to Edward Lockwood at Kingham

   Sue :)
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Re: DOWDESWELL family, Kingham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 27 December 08 17:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi Darren

Have not got any further with Hannah, to date. I  have a date of death for her of 1764, she died in Kingham (as Hannah HALE) as far as I know but I have this info from another correspondent so did not source it myself, I have not got access to the Kingham records.

I would be thrilled to give her name back to her. Thanks for your interest - and my thanks to Jamajo also. I will look at the other D'wells of KIngham and see if I can see any links.

Happy new year to you both

Pat W