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help needed with ftm or its going in the bin
« on: Monday 17 December 07 21:58 GMT (UK) »
hi i wonder if someone could help me i have ftm 05 and have all my tree and info on there i am about to have it printed and i am checking things over and i have found that when i look at the relationship calculator my brother and his wife are half 4th cousins twice removed. how can this be when i look at the all in one tree for either of them the other partner is not on. i have checked on the individual page and all the info is correct what can i do about this any ideas before i bin it. sorry but really frustrated
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Re: help needed with ftm or its going in the bin
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 December 07 00:10 GMT (UK) »
If FTM states that they are cousins twice removed then the mistake, if there is one, occurred further back than on the individual page.  You will have to go up your brother's wife's ascendancy tree and try and identify where the mistake occurred.

If you go to the top of your brother's wife's branch and then run a Outline Descendancy report do you get numbers like this [1] after the generation number?  That usually indicates inter-marriage.  You will then have to work out where the inter-marriage mistake occurred and it should be above where the inter-marriages numbers starts on the report.

Sussex: Floate, West
Kent: Tuffee
Cheshire: Gradwell
Lancashire: Gradwell

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Re: help needed with ftm or its going in the bin
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 18 December 07 00:30 GMT (UK) »
thanks for that i am going to check that now fingers crossed thats what it is and that someone could help me out with it
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Re: help needed with ftm or its going in the bin
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 December 07 00:38 GMT (UK) »
hi i did an outline descendants report for both my brother and his wife and they dont have any numbers after the generation numbers but i have found this out

here is the link although it is a very tenuous one

our great grandma CATHERINE BROOMHEAD married a THOMAS HODGETTS and had 2 children

he disappeared and CATHERINE HODGETTS moved in with a JOHN MOULDING a widower with 2 children.

1891 she was his housekeeper then in the 1901 census she was his wife although i have never found a marriage. they had 2 children one of them being my grandma who was brought up as HENRIETTA MOULDING her marriage cert says HENRIETTA MOULDING father JOHN MOULDING but her birth certificate says HENRIETTA HODGETTS and fathers name left blank.

therefore i dont think CATHERINE ever married JOHN MOULDING but just took his name . tut tut !!

so back to Catherines first husband THOMAS HODGETTS he had several siblings and one of these was GEORGE HODGETTS who married a MARY ALICE ROTHWELL.

MARY ALICE ROTHWELL was my sister in laws 1st cousin twice removed.

so i think this is the reason why my brother and his wife are half 4th cousins twice removed.

but what do i do about it

any ideas anyone

love linda x x


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 December 07 01:03 GMT (UK) »
One thing I forgot to mention was that you have to check the options on the Outline Descendancy report.  Re-run the report again but this time after the report has been dispalyed you should see a toolbar on the right hand side.  Underneath the Font button (ABC) is the options button.  Click on that and make sure Include duplicate children of intermarriages is ticked.  Then rerun the report.

Was it physically possible for Thomas Hodgetts to be the father of Henrietta?  You say he disappeared but could he have been the father?

Unfortunately you have a big problem because there are doubts about who the real father was.  Catherine Broomhead may have had an affair with a 3rd man and when she gave birth she may have said the father was Thomas Hodgetts for convenience sake.  Almost certainly John Moulding was not the father.

It's difficult to know what to advise in these circumstances.  The only way to avoid having an inter-marriage thing in the relationships calculator is to create a 3rd relationship for Catherine with spouse unknown.

Relationship (1) Spouse: Thomas Hodgetts
Child 1
Child 2

Relationship (2) Spouse: Unknown
Henrietta

Relationship (3) Spouse: John Moulding
Child 4
Sussex: Floate, West
Kent: Tuffee
Cheshire: Gradwell
Lancashire: Gradwell

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